Bone
2003-07-21 14:06:07 UTC
Okay, I'm at my wits' end, and need some advice.
I seem to have little problem cracking your average game (semi-tight,
semi-passive). I like to play a lot of 5/10 HE, and usually do pretty
well, so long as the game isn't too tough or too loose.
Now, when it comes to the tougher games, I do know what my problem is. I
only have a basic understanding of pot odds and implied idds, whereas the
tougher players live by these skills. I can accept that and can accept
that it's a leak I need to fix. I have no problem with leaks like this,
since I can identify them and work to correct them.
Here's my real problem: I can't beat the "juicy" games... the games where
the true fish swim and the money is flowing. You see, my biggest strength
is my ability to put people on their hands. I literally woke up one day
and was able to do it, and I do it with an accuracy that makes me quite
proud of myself and quite able to hang in any game that is moderately
tight. Obviously, though, this skill does me no good in games where 7 out
of 10 players see the flop every round, and you can count on *at least* 5
of them seeing it down to the river.
There are a few basic principles in this type of situation that I am aware
of, but the overall picture of how to play in extremely loose games eludes
me.
- I understand that the high pairs go down in value, and you should do
less pre-flop raising with them since no one is going to respect it, and
you'll like get drawn out on.
- I understand that hands like JTs skyrocket in value, and some will even
argue that you should raise pre-flop with it to help create the correct
odds in later rounds. Is this correct?
If anyone could offer me some pointers, I would surely appreciate it.
Likewise, if you could recommend some reading that addresses this, that
would be great. I refer to Sklansky's "Hold-em For Advanced Players" on a
daily basis (and his "Theory of Poker"), but his prescribed methods are
getting me smeared in the extremely loose low-limits. Sklanksy does have
an entire section dedicated to this, but surprisingly, it seems to deal
primarily with your table image (not thinking too long about decisions,
etc). In contrast to the rest of his book, he offers little concrete
advice on this.
I know that there are major adjustments that I need to make, but I'm
killing myself trying to identify them. One possible book I've seen with
good reviews is Mr. Carson's, but I can't tell from the reviews if it
really hits the aspect of loose games. I see that Lee Jones has a
low-limit book, too - can anyone tell me which of these is the better read
with regard to combatting loose play (whether it be loose-passive or
loose-aggresive)?
Thank you
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I seem to have little problem cracking your average game (semi-tight,
semi-passive). I like to play a lot of 5/10 HE, and usually do pretty
well, so long as the game isn't too tough or too loose.
Now, when it comes to the tougher games, I do know what my problem is. I
only have a basic understanding of pot odds and implied idds, whereas the
tougher players live by these skills. I can accept that and can accept
that it's a leak I need to fix. I have no problem with leaks like this,
since I can identify them and work to correct them.
Here's my real problem: I can't beat the "juicy" games... the games where
the true fish swim and the money is flowing. You see, my biggest strength
is my ability to put people on their hands. I literally woke up one day
and was able to do it, and I do it with an accuracy that makes me quite
proud of myself and quite able to hang in any game that is moderately
tight. Obviously, though, this skill does me no good in games where 7 out
of 10 players see the flop every round, and you can count on *at least* 5
of them seeing it down to the river.
There are a few basic principles in this type of situation that I am aware
of, but the overall picture of how to play in extremely loose games eludes
me.
- I understand that the high pairs go down in value, and you should do
less pre-flop raising with them since no one is going to respect it, and
you'll like get drawn out on.
- I understand that hands like JTs skyrocket in value, and some will even
argue that you should raise pre-flop with it to help create the correct
odds in later rounds. Is this correct?
If anyone could offer me some pointers, I would surely appreciate it.
Likewise, if you could recommend some reading that addresses this, that
would be great. I refer to Sklansky's "Hold-em For Advanced Players" on a
daily basis (and his "Theory of Poker"), but his prescribed methods are
getting me smeared in the extremely loose low-limits. Sklanksy does have
an entire section dedicated to this, but surprisingly, it seems to deal
primarily with your table image (not thinking too long about decisions,
etc). In contrast to the rest of his book, he offers little concrete
advice on this.
I know that there are major adjustments that I need to make, but I'm
killing myself trying to identify them. One possible book I've seen with
good reviews is Mr. Carson's, but I can't tell from the reviews if it
really hits the aspect of loose games. I see that Lee Jones has a
low-limit book, too - can anyone tell me which of these is the better read
with regard to combatting loose play (whether it be loose-passive or
loose-aggresive)?
Thank you
_________________________________________________________________
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