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Sidewinder Sid
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Fred E. Llauget
2004-02-02 07:52:15 UTC
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I've been playing Turbo Texas Hold'em with the optional
Sidewinder Sid advice add-on. Lately it seems Sid
frequently complains that I played a hand "too loose
& too aggressive." I've been keeping track & about
75% of the time he does, I won the pot. I'm beginning
to take such criticism as a compliment.

For example, I had AdKs in mid position. I raise.
Four callers. Flop is 8d9dTs. Checked to me. I bet,
button calls, others fold. Turn is 2d. I bet, button
folds. I win pot. Sid says I was "too aggressive" &
should have checked. If I check, button almost certainly
checks & sees river for free. If I don't improve on river,
button could catch pair & beat my A high.

Am I correct? Is Sid giving faulty advice? If so,
should all his advice be questioned?
RichM
2004-02-02 10:13:10 UTC
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Post by Fred E. Llauget
frequently complains that I played a hand "too loose
& too aggressive." I've been keeping track & about
75% of the time he does, I won the pot. I'm beginning
to take such criticism as a compliment.
I think SID is designed to teach people tight conservative odds-oriented
poker, and not how to bluff or semi-bluff. Once you stop making "mistakes"
related to improperly estimating odds, and once you have learned to read
your opponents, then you probably have progressed beyond this tool. Try
playing new games against random selections of opponents and see if your
style holds up, or test yourself against groups of conservative or loose or
aggressive or passive opponents.

I wish there was a way for TTH to tell you how much money you would have
over time if you had played "their way."

Rich M
Kirk
2004-02-02 14:51:14 UTC
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Post by RichM
Post by Fred E. Llauget
frequently complains that I played a hand "too loose
& too aggressive." I've been keeping track & about
75% of the time he does, I won the pot. I'm beginning
to take such criticism as a compliment.
I think SID is designed to teach people tight conservative odds-oriented
poker, and not how to bluff or semi-bluff. Once you stop making "mistakes"
related to improperly estimating odds, and once you have learned to read
your opponents, then you probably have progressed beyond this tool. Try
playing new games against random selections of opponents and see if your
style holds up, or test yourself against groups of conservative or loose or
aggressive or passive opponents.
I wish there was a way for TTH to tell you how much money you would have
over time if you had played "their way."
Rich M
There is. Use the Challenge mode. The Advisor, Mike, plays "their
way". You should be able to beat him more often than not.
LA Sandman
2004-02-02 22:05:34 UTC
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I've also been using SID for months now to hone my skills. Almost
exclusively in the Challenge mode, by the way.

I have also found that bluffing and even check raising is questioned
by him as a bad move. Whenever I finish the challenge and replay the
hands with his comments I usually just skip over those bluffing or chk
raising hands because he didn't know what I was doing.

Since we're talking about Sid do you have any problems with his
choices of starting hands? He seems to love to play just about any 2
cards on the BB that are raised to. Like 86o or 43 suited. Since my
starting hands have been devised via Lee Jones and Lou Krieger books
there's always a conflict on it.

What I did was start to keep track of all of the hands I should have
"stayed in" on vs. folding them. In approx. 10,000 hands of overall
play the "stay in" hands came up to a grand total of $43 loss - - -
for Sid. So, does playing these hands, or not playing them, make a
difference? Not really.

Hey, did I just answer my own question?
rickK
2004-02-03 02:10:54 UTC
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Sid tells me that I am "too loose" and "too agressive" as well. After
reading these postings I went back and challenged "Mike" for 100 hands. Mike
won $1000.00 and I won $3476.00. I agree with the other posters that Sid is
just a starting point. The odd thing is, if you turn "advice" on while
playing in ring mode, The advisor *will* have you check/raise occasionally.
I can say that TTH has helped my performance and profitability tremendously
in low-limit holdem. In fact, today I sat down at a local card room for
three hours, playing 4/8, and walked away up $226.00 ( There *was* one guy
who seemed to want to just throw his money at me, though.I need to get his
address and put him on my Xmas card list.) FWIW, I also have Tournament
Texas Holdem, and I really think that program helped me finish in the money
at a Tuesday night no limit tourney at the Mirage last summer.

just my .02

Rick


"Fred E. Llauget" <fllauget
Post by Fred E. Llauget
I've been playing Turbo Texas Hold'em with the optional
Sidewinder Sid advice add-on. Lately it seems Sid
frequently complains that I played a hand "too loose
& too aggressive." I've been keeping track & about
75% of the time he does, I won the pot. I'm beginning
to take such criticism as a compliment.
For example, I had AdKs in mid position. I raise.
Four callers. Flop is 8d9dTs. Checked to me. I bet,
button calls, others fold. Turn is 2d. I bet, button
folds. I win pot. Sid says I was "too aggressive" &
should have checked. If I check, button almost certainly
checks & sees river for free. If I don't improve on river,
button could catch pair & beat my A high.
Am I correct? Is Sid giving faulty advice? If so,
should all his advice be questioned?
Philwsop
2004-02-03 03:25:54 UTC
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