Post by susan Post by da pickle Post by susan
You might actually learn something.
This person is not BillB ... even BillB did not think he actually already
knew everything like this imposter.
I think it is
I'll go further - I think Pickle knows it is, and that Pickle thinks
that Bill has _always_ thought he knew everything.
You know me so well, Bob. It is nice that BillB has rejoined the group. I
wish him no harm. He has often presented his philosophical ideas in a style
that calls out for challenge in a similar vein as he offers.
To be less vague and obtuse, he states a proposition as the "essentially
saying" of some group (usually wingnuts, Republicans, righties or some other
stereotype) and then decides why his presumption is really foolish and he
cleverly demands those idiots that support his made-up postulate prove that
they are correct.
Anyone in a good mood that day might respond with something simple like:
"You make no sense."
Others actually attempt to point out that when you start with bad
assumptions, no reasonable discussion is possible.
BillB then accuses all that disagree with his now buried and lost originally
posted mis-characterization names and the thread lost to the usual suspects
exchanging inane insults which sometimes degrades into a
I personally think BillB is a very smart guy.
I liked dueling with him, but I do not think he ever took it very well. He
never seemed to understand almost every time, the original formulation of
his "question" was anything other than a red herring. Claiming to want to
have a reasonable debate on an important issue or concept is a good thing.
Beginning by tossing red meat into a lion's cage is not the best way to set
such a discussion in motion.
You and I, Bob, sometimes get into a bit of a tiff. I still believe that
most of the time, I either misunderstand what you are saying or you
misunderstand something I say and we lose our civility ... at least I do.
Sometimes, it is this medium ... sometimes it is someone who gets involved
as a troll and gets us diverted. I think you are a really smart guy too.
The problem at the base is that I have a very different world view than
either you or BillB. We have very fundamental differences, I think, in what
we view as real or proper or some-other-sort-of-word. Sometimes, all of us
get a little silly at a time when the other person is being serious. It is
almost impossible to recover when that happens.
I enjoy all the different personalities on this group. Even those that I
might believe do not often provide much of a contribution of merit (in my
opinion) ... even those sometimes post something that makes me read or think
about something in a different way.
I know that I have a high opinion of my opinion. I am not alone in that
conceit. I really do try and discuss a serious issue in a serious manner;
sometimes I fail. Perhaps I could try to be a little less witty and a
little more understanding of those with whom I disagree. However, when
someone posts a presumptuous and disingenuous "challenge" ... it is hard to
resist a twist. Know what I mean?