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Jaffa
2005-09-29 14:05:40 UTC
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What the hell was this guy thinking?

Yet another moron rewarded.

FullTiltPoker Game #234377898: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (1498862), Table 1 -
40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:06:54 ET - 2005/09/28

Seat 2: mrjaffa (1,635)

Seat 3: frog21 (890)

Seat 4: alosh757 (3,786)

Seat 5: buckmastr (1,780)

Seat 6: SJerseyGirl (1,444)

Seat 7: HeyGuy (1,000)

Seat 8: jayblimpie (1,855)

Seat 9: Jonesy15 (1,110)

alosh757 posts the small blind of 40

buckmastr posts the big blind of 80

The button is in seat #3

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to mrjaffa [As Ad]

SJerseyGirl calls 80

HeyGuy calls 80

jayblimpie raises to 160

Jonesy15 folds

mrjaffa raises to 500

frog21 folds

alosh757 folds

buckmastr folds

SJerseyGirl folds

HeyGuy folds

jayblimpie calls 340

*** FLOP *** [2c 7d Qc]

jayblimpie bets 1,280

mrjaffa calls 1,135, and is all in

jayblimpie shows [2h 7c]

mrjaffa shows [As Ad]

Uncalled bet of 145 returned to jayblimpie

*** TURN *** [2c 7d Qc] [3h]

*** RIVER *** [2c 7d Qc 3h] [7s]

jayblimpie shows a full house, Sevens full of Twos

mrjaffa shows two pair, Aces and Sevens

jayblimpie wins the pot (3,550) with a full house, Sevens full of Twos

Jonesy15: omg

mrjaffa stands up

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 3,550 | Rake 0

Board: [2c 7d Qc 3h 7s]

Seat 2: mrjaffa showed [As Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens

Seat 3: frog21 (button) didn't bet (folded)

Seat 4: alosh757 (small blind) folded before the Flop

Seat 5: buckmastr (big blind) folded before the Flop

Seat 6: SJerseyGirl folded before the Flop

Seat 7: HeyGuy folded before the Flop

Seat 8: jayblimpie showed [2h 7c] and won (3,550) with a full house, Sevens
full of Twos

Seat 9: Jonesy15 didn't bet (folded)
fcsmfs
2005-09-29 14:16:27 UTC
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I feel your fustration.. Full tilt is known to pay off idiots. I was on that
site for a week and thats all they do is pay off idiots like that. As i said the
more idiots on the table it gets harder and harder to beat if these sites
continue to pay them off like full tilt
Post by Jaffa
What the hell was this guy thinking?
Yet another moron rewarded.
FullTiltPoker Game #234377898: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (1498862), Table 1 -
40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:06:54 ET - 2005/09/28
Seat 2: mrjaffa (1,635)
Seat 3: frog21 (890)
Seat 4: alosh757 (3,786)
Seat 5: buckmastr (1,780)
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl (1,444)
Seat 7: HeyGuy (1,000)
Seat 8: jayblimpie (1,855)
Seat 9: Jonesy15 (1,110)
alosh757 posts the small blind of 40
buckmastr posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mrjaffa [As Ad]
SJerseyGirl calls 80
HeyGuy calls 80
jayblimpie raises to 160
Jonesy15 folds
mrjaffa raises to 500
frog21 folds
alosh757 folds
buckmastr folds
SJerseyGirl folds
HeyGuy folds
jayblimpie calls 340
*** FLOP *** [2c 7d Qc]
jayblimpie bets 1,280
mrjaffa calls 1,135, and is all in
jayblimpie shows [2h 7c]
mrjaffa shows [As Ad]
Uncalled bet of 145 returned to jayblimpie
*** TURN *** [2c 7d Qc] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [2c 7d Qc 3h] [7s]
jayblimpie shows a full house, Sevens full of Twos
mrjaffa shows two pair, Aces and Sevens
jayblimpie wins the pot (3,550) with a full house, Sevens full of Twos
Jonesy15: omg
mrjaffa stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,550 | Rake 0
Board: [2c 7d Qc 3h 7s]
Seat 2: mrjaffa showed [As Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 3: frog21 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: alosh757 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: buckmastr (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl folded before the Flop
Seat 7: HeyGuy folded before the Flop
Seat 8: jayblimpie showed [2h 7c] and won (3,550) with a full house, Sevens
full of Twos
Seat 9: Jonesy15 didn't bet (folded)
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Minor Glitch
2005-09-29 19:58:28 UTC
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Post by fcsmfs
Full tilt is known to pay off idiots. I was on that
site for a week and thats all they do is pay off idiots like that.
Then that must have been a great week for you.

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Tanya AKA misst74
2005-09-29 14:16:28 UTC
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Post by Jaffa
What the hell was this guy thinking?
He's a blogger, had to play The Hammer strongly, so when you reraised, he had
not choice but to call.

Similar to the Arlo and McB for RGP.

Sorry Jaffa!

T
Post by Jaffa
Yet another moron rewarded.
FullTiltPoker Game #234377898: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (1498862), Table 1 -
40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:06:54 ET - 2005/09/28
Seat 2: mrjaffa (1,635)
Seat 3: frog21 (890)
Seat 4: alosh757 (3,786)
Seat 5: buckmastr (1,780)
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl (1,444)
Seat 7: HeyGuy (1,000)
Seat 8: jayblimpie (1,855)
Seat 9: Jonesy15 (1,110)
alosh757 posts the small blind of 40
buckmastr posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mrjaffa [As Ad]
SJerseyGirl calls 80
HeyGuy calls 80
jayblimpie raises to 160
Jonesy15 folds
mrjaffa raises to 500
frog21 folds
alosh757 folds
buckmastr folds
SJerseyGirl folds
HeyGuy folds
jayblimpie calls 340
*** FLOP *** [2c 7d Qc]
jayblimpie bets 1,280
mrjaffa calls 1,135, and is all in
jayblimpie shows [2h 7c]
mrjaffa shows [As Ad]
Uncalled bet of 145 returned to jayblimpie
*** TURN *** [2c 7d Qc] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [2c 7d Qc 3h] [7s]
jayblimpie shows a full house, Sevens full of Twos
mrjaffa shows two pair, Aces and Sevens
jayblimpie wins the pot (3,550) with a full house, Sevens full of Twos
Jonesy15: omg
mrjaffa stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,550 | Rake 0
Board: [2c 7d Qc 3h 7s]
Seat 2: mrjaffa showed [As Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 3: frog21 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: alosh757 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: buckmastr (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl folded before the Flop
Seat 7: HeyGuy folded before the Flop
Seat 8: jayblimpie showed [2h 7c] and won (3,550) with a full house, Sevens
full of Twos
Seat 9: Jonesy15 didn't bet (folded)
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Kinnipak
2005-09-29 14:46:27 UTC
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Post by Tanya AKA misst74
Post by Jaffa
What the hell was this guy thinking?
He's a blogger, had to play The Hammer strongly, so when you reraised, he had
not choice but to call.
Similar to the Arlo and McB for RGP.
Sorry Jaffa!
T
"blogger"?

What 4 this is?
Post by Tanya AKA misst74
Post by Jaffa
Yet another moron rewarded.
FullTiltPoker Game #234377898: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (1498862), Table 1 -
40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:06:54 ET - 2005/09/28
Seat 2: mrjaffa (1,635)
Seat 3: frog21 (890)
Seat 4: alosh757 (3,786)
Seat 5: buckmastr (1,780)
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl (1,444)
Seat 7: HeyGuy (1,000)
Seat 8: jayblimpie (1,855)
Seat 9: Jonesy15 (1,110)
alosh757 posts the small blind of 40
buckmastr posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mrjaffa [As Ad]
SJerseyGirl calls 80
HeyGuy calls 80
jayblimpie raises to 160
Jonesy15 folds
mrjaffa raises to 500
frog21 folds
alosh757 folds
buckmastr folds
SJerseyGirl folds
HeyGuy folds
jayblimpie calls 340
*** FLOP *** [2c 7d Qc]
jayblimpie bets 1,280
mrjaffa calls 1,135, and is all in
jayblimpie shows [2h 7c]
mrjaffa shows [As Ad]
Uncalled bet of 145 returned to jayblimpie
*** TURN *** [2c 7d Qc] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [2c 7d Qc 3h] [7s]
jayblimpie shows a full house, Sevens full of Twos
mrjaffa shows two pair, Aces and Sevens
jayblimpie wins the pot (3,550) with a full house, Sevens full of Twos
Jonesy15: omg
mrjaffa stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,550 | Rake 0
Board: [2c 7d Qc 3h 7s]
Seat 2: mrjaffa showed [As Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 3: frog21 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: alosh757 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: buckmastr (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl folded before the Flop
Seat 7: HeyGuy folded before the Flop
Seat 8: jayblimpie showed [2h 7c] and won (3,550) with a full house, Sevens
full of Twos
Seat 9: Jonesy15 didn't bet (folded)
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richiematt
2005-09-29 14:34:24 UTC
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Post by Jaffa
What the hell was this guy thinking?
Yet another moron rewarded.
FullTiltPoker Game #234377898: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (1498862), Table 1 -
40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:06:54 ET - 2005/09/28
Seat 2: mrjaffa (1,635)
Seat 3: frog21 (890)
Seat 4: alosh757 (3,786)
Seat 5: buckmastr (1,780)
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl (1,444)
Seat 7: HeyGuy (1,000)
Seat 8: jayblimpie (1,855)
Seat 9: Jonesy15 (1,110)
alosh757 posts the small blind of 40
buckmastr posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mrjaffa [As Ad]
SJerseyGirl calls 80
HeyGuy calls 80
jayblimpie raises to 160
Jonesy15 folds
mrjaffa raises to 500
frog21 folds
alosh757 folds
buckmastr folds
SJerseyGirl folds
HeyGuy folds
jayblimpie calls 340
*** FLOP *** [2c 7d Qc]
jayblimpie bets 1,280
mrjaffa calls 1,135, and is all in
jayblimpie shows [2h 7c]
mrjaffa shows [As Ad]
Uncalled bet of 145 returned to jayblimpie
*** TURN *** [2c 7d Qc] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [2c 7d Qc 3h] [7s]
jayblimpie shows a full house, Sevens full of Twos
mrjaffa shows two pair, Aces and Sevens
jayblimpie wins the pot (3,550) with a full house, Sevens full of Twos
Jonesy15: omg
mrjaffa stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,550 | Rake 0
Board: [2c 7d Qc 3h 7s]
Seat 2: mrjaffa showed [As Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 3: frog21 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: alosh757 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: buckmastr (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl folded before the Flop
Seat 7: HeyGuy folded before the Flop
Seat 8: jayblimpie showed [2h 7c] and won (3,550) with a full house, Sevens
full of Twos
Seat 9: Jonesy15 didn't bet (folded)
Last week a player re-raised on the button with 72o on the first hand of a SNG
and was called by the original raiser. The flop came A77 and the 72 took all of
AQ's chips.

Some players think it's funny to win with the worst possible starting hand and
will play it like a big hand. Usually they try to bluff and steal with it, then
show it to let the table know that they play.

Richie

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tyslothrop
2005-09-29 14:37:37 UTC
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Post by richiematt
Post by Jaffa
What the hell was this guy thinking?
Yet another moron rewarded.
FullTiltPoker Game #234377898: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (1498862), Table 1 -
40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:06:54 ET - 2005/09/28
Seat 2: mrjaffa (1,635)
Seat 3: frog21 (890)
Seat 4: alosh757 (3,786)
Seat 5: buckmastr (1,780)
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl (1,444)
Seat 7: HeyGuy (1,000)
Seat 8: jayblimpie (1,855)
Seat 9: Jonesy15 (1,110)
alosh757 posts the small blind of 40
buckmastr posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mrjaffa [As Ad]
SJerseyGirl calls 80
HeyGuy calls 80
jayblimpie raises to 160
Jonesy15 folds
mrjaffa raises to 500
frog21 folds
alosh757 folds
buckmastr folds
SJerseyGirl folds
HeyGuy folds
jayblimpie calls 340
*** FLOP *** [2c 7d Qc]
jayblimpie bets 1,280
mrjaffa calls 1,135, and is all in
jayblimpie shows [2h 7c]
mrjaffa shows [As Ad]
Uncalled bet of 145 returned to jayblimpie
*** TURN *** [2c 7d Qc] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [2c 7d Qc 3h] [7s]
jayblimpie shows a full house, Sevens full of Twos
mrjaffa shows two pair, Aces and Sevens
jayblimpie wins the pot (3,550) with a full house, Sevens full of Twos
Jonesy15: omg
mrjaffa stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,550 | Rake 0
Board: [2c 7d Qc 3h 7s]
Seat 2: mrjaffa showed [As Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 3: frog21 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: alosh757 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: buckmastr (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl folded before the Flop
Seat 7: HeyGuy folded before the Flop
Seat 8: jayblimpie showed [2h 7c] and won (3,550) with a full house, Sevens
full of Twos
Seat 9: Jonesy15 didn't bet (folded)
Last week a player re-raised on the button with 72o on the first hand of a SNG
and was called by the original raiser. The flop came A77 and the 72 took all of
AQ's chips.
Some players think it's funny to win with the worst possible starting hand and
will play it like a big hand. Usually they try to bluff and steal with it, then
show it to let the table know that they play.
Richie
misst is right, it's a blogger thing. 



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Jaffa
2005-09-29 15:07:38 UTC
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What's this "blogger" you speak of?
Post by tyslothrop
Post by richiematt
Post by Jaffa
What the hell was this guy thinking?
Yet another moron rewarded.
FullTiltPoker Game #234377898: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (1498862), Table 1 -
40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:06:54 ET - 2005/09/28
Seat 2: mrjaffa (1,635)
Seat 3: frog21 (890)
Seat 4: alosh757 (3,786)
Seat 5: buckmastr (1,780)
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl (1,444)
Seat 7: HeyGuy (1,000)
Seat 8: jayblimpie (1,855)
Seat 9: Jonesy15 (1,110)
alosh757 posts the small blind of 40
buckmastr posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mrjaffa [As Ad]
SJerseyGirl calls 80
HeyGuy calls 80
jayblimpie raises to 160
Jonesy15 folds
mrjaffa raises to 500
frog21 folds
alosh757 folds
buckmastr folds
SJerseyGirl folds
HeyGuy folds
jayblimpie calls 340
*** FLOP *** [2c 7d Qc]
jayblimpie bets 1,280
mrjaffa calls 1,135, and is all in
jayblimpie shows [2h 7c]
mrjaffa shows [As Ad]
Uncalled bet of 145 returned to jayblimpie
*** TURN *** [2c 7d Qc] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [2c 7d Qc 3h] [7s]
jayblimpie shows a full house, Sevens full of Twos
mrjaffa shows two pair, Aces and Sevens
jayblimpie wins the pot (3,550) with a full house, Sevens full of Twos
Jonesy15: omg
mrjaffa stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,550 | Rake 0
Board: [2c 7d Qc 3h 7s]
Seat 2: mrjaffa showed [As Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 3: frog21 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: alosh757 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: buckmastr (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl folded before the Flop
Seat 7: HeyGuy folded before the Flop
Seat 8: jayblimpie showed [2h 7c] and won (3,550) with a full house, Sevens
full of Twos
Seat 9: Jonesy15 didn't bet (folded)
Last week a player re-raised on the button with 72o on the first hand of a SNG
and was called by the original raiser. The flop came A77 and the 72 took
all
of
AQ's chips.
Some players think it's funny to win with the worst possible starting hand and
will play it like a big hand. Usually they try to bluff and steal with
it,
then
show it to let the table know that they play.
Richie
misst is right, it's a blogger thing.
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Tanya AKA misst74
2005-09-29 16:55:39 UTC
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Just in case your serious, because I can't detect sarchasm in type,
"bloggers"...you know, people who blog.

LOL

T
Post by Jaffa
What's this "blogger" you speak of?
Post by tyslothrop
Post by richiematt
Post by Jaffa
What the hell was this guy thinking?
Yet another moron rewarded.
FullTiltPoker Game #234377898: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (1498862), Table 1 -
40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:06:54 ET - 2005/09/28
Seat 2: mrjaffa (1,635)
Seat 3: frog21 (890)
Seat 4: alosh757 (3,786)
Seat 5: buckmastr (1,780)
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl (1,444)
Seat 7: HeyGuy (1,000)
Seat 8: jayblimpie (1,855)
Seat 9: Jonesy15 (1,110)
alosh757 posts the small blind of 40
buckmastr posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mrjaffa [As Ad]
SJerseyGirl calls 80
HeyGuy calls 80
jayblimpie raises to 160
Jonesy15 folds
mrjaffa raises to 500
frog21 folds
alosh757 folds
buckmastr folds
SJerseyGirl folds
HeyGuy folds
jayblimpie calls 340
*** FLOP *** [2c 7d Qc]
jayblimpie bets 1,280
mrjaffa calls 1,135, and is all in
jayblimpie shows [2h 7c]
mrjaffa shows [As Ad]
Uncalled bet of 145 returned to jayblimpie
*** TURN *** [2c 7d Qc] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [2c 7d Qc 3h] [7s]
jayblimpie shows a full house, Sevens full of Twos
mrjaffa shows two pair, Aces and Sevens
jayblimpie wins the pot (3,550) with a full house, Sevens full of Twos
Jonesy15: omg
mrjaffa stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,550 | Rake 0
Board: [2c 7d Qc 3h 7s]
Seat 2: mrjaffa showed [As Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 3: frog21 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: alosh757 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: buckmastr (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl folded before the Flop
Seat 7: HeyGuy folded before the Flop
Seat 8: jayblimpie showed [2h 7c] and won (3,550) with a full house, Sevens
full of Twos
Seat 9: Jonesy15 didn't bet (folded)
Last week a player re-raised on the button with 72o on the first hand of a SNG
and was called by the original raiser. The flop came A77 and the 72 took
all
of
AQ's chips.
Some players think it's funny to win with the worst possible starting hand and
will play it like a big hand. Usually they try to bluff and steal with
it,
then
show it to let the table know that they play.
Richie
misst is right, it's a blogger thing.
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Kinnipak
2005-09-29 17:08:27 UTC
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Post by Tanya AKA misst74
Just in case your serious, because I can't detect sarchasm in type,
"bloggers"...you know, people who blog.
LOL
T
No sarchasm in my question. I figured it was a person who writes a blog,
but what does that have to do with the way he played the hand?
Post by Tanya AKA misst74
Post by Jaffa
What's this "blogger" you speak of?
Post by tyslothrop
Post by richiematt
Post by Jaffa
What the hell was this guy thinking?
Yet another moron rewarded.
FullTiltPoker Game #234377898: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (1498862), Table 1 -
40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:06:54 ET - 2005/09/28
Seat 2: mrjaffa (1,635)
Seat 3: frog21 (890)
Seat 4: alosh757 (3,786)
Seat 5: buckmastr (1,780)
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl (1,444)
Seat 7: HeyGuy (1,000)
Seat 8: jayblimpie (1,855)
Seat 9: Jonesy15 (1,110)
alosh757 posts the small blind of 40
buckmastr posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mrjaffa [As Ad]
SJerseyGirl calls 80
HeyGuy calls 80
jayblimpie raises to 160
Jonesy15 folds
mrjaffa raises to 500
frog21 folds
alosh757 folds
buckmastr folds
SJerseyGirl folds
HeyGuy folds
jayblimpie calls 340
*** FLOP *** [2c 7d Qc]
jayblimpie bets 1,280
mrjaffa calls 1,135, and is all in
jayblimpie shows [2h 7c]
mrjaffa shows [As Ad]
Uncalled bet of 145 returned to jayblimpie
*** TURN *** [2c 7d Qc] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [2c 7d Qc 3h] [7s]
jayblimpie shows a full house, Sevens full of Twos
mrjaffa shows two pair, Aces and Sevens
jayblimpie wins the pot (3,550) with a full house, Sevens full of Twos
Jonesy15: omg
mrjaffa stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,550 | Rake 0
Board: [2c 7d Qc 3h 7s]
Seat 2: mrjaffa showed [As Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 3: frog21 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: alosh757 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: buckmastr (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl folded before the Flop
Seat 7: HeyGuy folded before the Flop
Seat 8: jayblimpie showed [2h 7c] and won (3,550) with a full house, Sevens
full of Twos
Seat 9: Jonesy15 didn't bet (folded)
Last week a player re-raised on the button with 72o on the first hand
of
Post by Tanya AKA misst74
Post by Jaffa
Post by tyslothrop
Post by richiematt
a SNG
and was called by the original raiser. The flop came A77 and the 72 took
all
of
AQ's chips.
Some players think it's funny to win with the worst possible starting hand and
will play it like a big hand. Usually they try to bluff and steal with
it,
then
show it to let the table know that they play.
Richie
misst is right, it's a blogger thing.
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richiematt
2005-09-29 17:35:09 UTC
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Post by Kinnipak
Post by Tanya AKA misst74
Just in case your serious, because I can't detect sarchasm in type,
"bloggers"...you know, people who blog.
LOL
T
No sarchasm in my question. I figured it was a person who writes a blog,
but what does that have to do with the way he played the hand?
Some bloggers like to post hands where they intentionally played the worst
possible starting hand and beat AA.

It's just a practical joke type thing.

I think it was TJ Cloutier who raised it up to steal a pot  with 72o and the
flop came 227, of course no one put him on 72o. So TJ had a story to tell which
is printed in his book (or a blogger will have a story to tell- put on his
blog) 

Richie
Post by Kinnipak
Post by Tanya AKA misst74
Post by Jaffa
What's this "blogger" you speak of?
Post by tyslothrop
Post by richiematt
Post by Jaffa
What the hell was this guy thinking?
Yet another moron rewarded.
FullTiltPoker Game #234377898: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (1498862), Table 1 -
40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:06:54 ET - 2005/09/28
Seat 2: mrjaffa (1,635)
Seat 3: frog21 (890)
Seat 4: alosh757 (3,786)
Seat 5: buckmastr (1,780)
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl (1,444)
Seat 7: HeyGuy (1,000)
Seat 8: jayblimpie (1,855)
Seat 9: Jonesy15 (1,110)
alosh757 posts the small blind of 40
buckmastr posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mrjaffa [As Ad]
SJerseyGirl calls 80
HeyGuy calls 80
jayblimpie raises to 160
Jonesy15 folds
mrjaffa raises to 500
frog21 folds
alosh757 folds
buckmastr folds
SJerseyGirl folds
HeyGuy folds
jayblimpie calls 340
*** FLOP *** [2c 7d Qc]
jayblimpie bets 1,280
mrjaffa calls 1,135, and is all in
jayblimpie shows [2h 7c]
mrjaffa shows [As Ad]
Uncalled bet of 145 returned to jayblimpie
*** TURN *** [2c 7d Qc] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [2c 7d Qc 3h] [7s]
jayblimpie shows a full house, Sevens full of Twos
mrjaffa shows two pair, Aces and Sevens
jayblimpie wins the pot (3,550) with a full house, Sevens full of Twos
Jonesy15: omg
mrjaffa stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,550 | Rake 0
Board: [2c 7d Qc 3h 7s]
Seat 2: mrjaffa showed [As Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 3: frog21 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: alosh757 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: buckmastr (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl folded before the Flop
Seat 7: HeyGuy folded before the Flop
Seat 8: jayblimpie showed [2h 7c] and won (3,550) with a full house,
Sevens
full of Twos
Seat 9: Jonesy15 didn't bet (folded)
Last week a player re-raised on the button with 72o on the first hand
of
Post by Tanya AKA misst74
Post by Jaffa
Post by tyslothrop
Post by richiematt
a SNG
and was called by the original raiser. The flop came A77 and the 72
took
Post by Tanya AKA misst74
Post by Jaffa
Post by tyslothrop
Post by richiematt
all
of
AQ's chips.
Some players think it's funny to win with the worst possible starting
hand and
will play it like a big hand. Usually they try to bluff and steal with
it,
then
show it to let the table know that they play.
Richie
misst is right, it's a blogger thing.
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2005-09-29 18:34:15 UTC
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Post by richiematt
I think it was TJ Cloutier who raised it up to steal a pot  with 72o and the
flop came 227, of course no one put him on 72o. So TJ had a story to tell which
is printed in his book (or a blogger will have a story to tell- put on his
blog) 
Clearly Cloutier is a big fish ;-)


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ecr72
2005-09-29 17:34:31 UTC
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Post by Kinnipak
Post by Tanya AKA misst74
Just in case your serious, because I can't detect sarchasm in type,
"bloggers"...you know, people who blog.
LOL
T
No sarchasm in my question. I figured it was a person who writes a blog,
but what does that have to do with the way he played the hand?
Certain bloggers have a hard on for the Hammer or 72o. It's a lot like
certain RGPers having a hard on for Presto 55, Arlo 64 and lesser known
McBastard K6.

The hand history is probably on it's way to his/her blog to show how big
their epenis is for playing the Hammer and cracking AA with it. Then the
dork parade with all do ehigh-fives about how cool they are for such a
'well played' hand.

At least the RGP hands all have some potential outside of flopping trips
or two pair.

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Ron Dworkin
2005-09-29 17:51:36 UTC
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This:

"The hand history is probably on it's way to his/her blog to show how
big
their epenis is for playing the Hammer and cracking AA with it. Then
the
dork parade with all do ehigh-fives about how cool they are for such a
'well played' hand."

is funny.
Kinnipak
2005-09-29 17:54:12 UTC
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Post by ecr72
Post by Kinnipak
Post by Tanya AKA misst74
Just in case your serious, because I can't detect sarchasm in type,
"bloggers"...you know, people who blog.
LOL
T
No sarchasm in my question. I figured it was a person who writes a blog,
but what does that have to do with the way he played the hand?
Certain bloggers have a hard on for the Hammer or 72o. It's a lot like
certain RGPers having a hard on for Presto 55, Arlo 64 and lesser known
McBastard K6.
The hand history is probably on it's way to his/her blog to show how big
their epenis is for playing the Hammer and cracking AA with it. Then the
dork parade with all do ehigh-fives about how cool they are for such a
'well played' hand.
At least the RGP hands all have some potential outside of flopping trips
or two pair.
Thx. That explains a lot. I play a lot of freerolls...(knocked you down
with THAT didn't I..???). All you see for the first 1-2 rounds is the "all
in" freaks holding themselves and whatever cards are in there hands.

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Jaffa
2005-09-29 18:56:54 UTC
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No sarcasm intended.

But thank you for explaining that a blogger is someone who blogs.

:-)
Post by Tanya AKA misst74
Just in case your serious, because I can't detect sarchasm in type,
"bloggers"...you know, people who blog.
LOL
T
Post by Jaffa
What's this "blogger" you speak of?
Post by tyslothrop
Post by richiematt
Post by Jaffa
What the hell was this guy thinking?
Yet another moron rewarded.
FullTiltPoker Game #234377898: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (1498862), Table 1 -
40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:06:54 ET - 2005/09/28
Seat 2: mrjaffa (1,635)
Seat 3: frog21 (890)
Seat 4: alosh757 (3,786)
Seat 5: buckmastr (1,780)
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl (1,444)
Seat 7: HeyGuy (1,000)
Seat 8: jayblimpie (1,855)
Seat 9: Jonesy15 (1,110)
alosh757 posts the small blind of 40
buckmastr posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mrjaffa [As Ad]
SJerseyGirl calls 80
HeyGuy calls 80
jayblimpie raises to 160
Jonesy15 folds
mrjaffa raises to 500
frog21 folds
alosh757 folds
buckmastr folds
SJerseyGirl folds
HeyGuy folds
jayblimpie calls 340
*** FLOP *** [2c 7d Qc]
jayblimpie bets 1,280
mrjaffa calls 1,135, and is all in
jayblimpie shows [2h 7c]
mrjaffa shows [As Ad]
Uncalled bet of 145 returned to jayblimpie
*** TURN *** [2c 7d Qc] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [2c 7d Qc 3h] [7s]
jayblimpie shows a full house, Sevens full of Twos
mrjaffa shows two pair, Aces and Sevens
jayblimpie wins the pot (3,550) with a full house, Sevens full of Twos
Jonesy15: omg
mrjaffa stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,550 | Rake 0
Board: [2c 7d Qc 3h 7s]
Seat 2: mrjaffa showed [As Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 3: frog21 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: alosh757 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: buckmastr (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl folded before the Flop
Seat 7: HeyGuy folded before the Flop
Seat 8: jayblimpie showed [2h 7c] and won (3,550) with a full house, Sevens
full of Twos
Seat 9: Jonesy15 didn't bet (folded)
Last week a player re-raised on the button with 72o on the first hand
of
a SNG
and was called by the original raiser. The flop came A77 and the 72 took
all
of
AQ's chips.
Some players think it's funny to win with the worst possible starting hand and
will play it like a big hand. Usually they try to bluff and steal with
it,
then
show it to let the table know that they play.
Richie
misst is right, it's a blogger thing.
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RoadRunner
2005-09-29 17:27:43 UTC
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I had a guy try to pull that $hit on me. Difference is, I held 77, and
the flop came 722. He almost beat me into the pot.
I LMAO as he headed to the ATM and I headed to the cashier.
Post by richiematt
Post by Jaffa
What the hell was this guy thinking?
Yet another moron rewarded.
FullTiltPoker Game #234377898: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (1498862), Table 1 -
40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:06:54 ET - 2005/09/28
Seat 2: mrjaffa (1,635)
Seat 3: frog21 (890)
Seat 4: alosh757 (3,786)
Seat 5: buckmastr (1,780)
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl (1,444)
Seat 7: HeyGuy (1,000)
Seat 8: jayblimpie (1,855)
Seat 9: Jonesy15 (1,110)
alosh757 posts the small blind of 40
buckmastr posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mrjaffa [As Ad]
SJerseyGirl calls 80
HeyGuy calls 80
jayblimpie raises to 160
Jonesy15 folds
mrjaffa raises to 500
frog21 folds
alosh757 folds
buckmastr folds
SJerseyGirl folds
HeyGuy folds
jayblimpie calls 340
*** FLOP *** [2c 7d Qc]
jayblimpie bets 1,280
mrjaffa calls 1,135, and is all in
jayblimpie shows [2h 7c]
mrjaffa shows [As Ad]
Uncalled bet of 145 returned to jayblimpie
*** TURN *** [2c 7d Qc] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [2c 7d Qc 3h] [7s]
jayblimpie shows a full house, Sevens full of Twos
mrjaffa shows two pair, Aces and Sevens
jayblimpie wins the pot (3,550) with a full house, Sevens full of Twos
Jonesy15: omg
mrjaffa stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,550 | Rake 0
Board: [2c 7d Qc 3h 7s]
Seat 2: mrjaffa showed [As Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 3: frog21 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: alosh757 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: buckmastr (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl folded before the Flop
Seat 7: HeyGuy folded before the Flop
Seat 8: jayblimpie showed [2h 7c] and won (3,550) with a full house, Sevens
full of Twos
Seat 9: Jonesy15 didn't bet (folded)
Last week a player re-raised on the button with 72o on the first hand of a SNG
and was called by the original raiser. The flop came A77 and the 72 took all of
AQ's chips.
Some players think it's funny to win with the worst possible starting hand and
will play it like a big hand. Usually they try to bluff and steal with it, then
show it to let the table know that they play.
Richie
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John Forsberg
2005-09-29 17:16:28 UTC
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He's thinking: It's only $11 let's have som fun and gamble. Hopefully I can bust
some nit who will tllt a lot and then fun will be had by all.

Playing poorly only makes you an idiot if you actually were trying to play well.


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flopalock
2005-09-30 17:49:25 UTC
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well said and over the heads of most people on this ng
Post by John Forsberg
Playing poorly only makes you an idiot if you actually were trying to play well.
DP75089
2005-09-30 18:27:26 UTC
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Post by flopalock
well said and over the heads of most people on this ng
I'll agree that it was well said, but it's damned arrogant of you to
assume that you're among some select few who were able to grasp his
meaning. I'm sure most who read it "got it".


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flopalock
2005-09-30 18:39:42 UTC
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you obviously read some other form of rgp
Post by DP75089
I'll agree that it was well said, but it's damned arrogant of you to
assume that you're among some select few who were able to grasp his
meaning. I'm sure most who read it "got it".
DP75089
2005-09-30 18:54:30 UTC
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Post by flopalock
you obviously read some other form of rgp
That's not obvious at all. Most who have posted on this thread (with the
exception of the OP) seem, on average, to be fairly bright individuals.
Maybe you were more awe-struck by John's rather straight-forward point
than most.


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Jaffa
2005-09-30 19:48:19 UTC
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With the exception of the OP? LOL.

I said I understood what you were saying, not really hard. Just didn't like
that people were still looking for a way to criticize my play or defend his
play when all I wanted to do was share a bad beat.

I'll say it again, this hand did not need any explaining, criticizing or
defending.
Post by DP75089
Post by flopalock
you obviously read some other form of rgp
That's not obvious at all. Most who have posted on this thread (with the
exception of the OP) seem, on average, to be fairly bright individuals.
Maybe you were more awe-struck by John's rather straight-forward point
than most.
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2005-09-30 20:01:22 UTC
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Post by Jaffa
With the exception of the OP? LOL.
I said I understood what you were saying
From your response to my first post, clearly you didn't understand.
Post by Jaffa
I'll say it again, this hand did not need any explaining, criticizing or
defending.
In fact, it didn't need to be posted at all. But that didn't stop you,
did it?


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Jaffa
2005-09-30 23:45:48 UTC
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Post by DP75089
From your response to my first post, clearly you didn't understand.
But I'm not an idiot and what you were stating was simple math.
Post by DP75089
In fact, it didn't need to be posted at all. But that didn't stop you,
did it?
See, this was the problem all along, you read a BAHH and decided you didn't
like it so decided to tell me that it wasn't such a bad beat. If it didn't
need to be posted, how hard is it just to skip the post huh?
DP75089
2005-10-01 00:30:51 UTC
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Post by Jaffa
Post by DP75089
From your response to my first post, clearly you didn't understand.
But I'm not an idiot
Everything you've said to this point, as well as your subsequent
statements prove otherwise.
Post by Jaffa
and what you were stating was simple math.
Post by DP75089
In fact, it didn't need to be posted at all. But that didn't stop you,
did it?
See, this was the problem all along, you read a BAHH and decided you didn't
like it
Further proof of what an idiot you are. I didn't say it didn't need to be
posted because I didn't like it. Hell, I didn't even criticize your
original post. My point was that if you didn't want any responses to your
post, posting it was pointless.
Post by Jaffa
so decided to tell me that it wasn't such a bad beat.
I didn't tell you it wasn't such a bad beat, you illiterate fuck. I told
you the other guy's play wasn't as bad as you made it out to be.
Post by Jaffa
If it didn't need to be posted, how hard is it just to skip the post huh?
See explanation above. Then ask your mommy to explain the explanation to
you. You clearly lack the equipment to comprehend much of anything.


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Jaffa
2005-10-01 01:50:10 UTC
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This is my last post on this topic.

Some BAHH form a good starting ground for a discussion that can enlighten
players on better play. I understand this.

For example, a previous post by myself regarding raising with KJ UTG started
what I thought was a healthy debate. It may not have read like I wanted to
read those replies, but that was a post that can indeed help someone's play.
Hell, I'll admit it, it may have made my game a little better.

But, this post was simply me showing a bad beat. I don't see why anyone
really needed to comment on anyone's play. Your reply did not enlighten me
in any way. Note how most of the replies simply read "oh, tough luck", or
"that was horrible".

You basically continue to try and tell me that this guys play wasn't so bad.
Well we all understand his pot odds here, but if you think raising in early
position, when there is already two limpers and 8 players at the table with
72 isn't such a horrible play, then I would like to sit at a poker table
with you any day. The fact that he had the pot odds to call does not take
away from the fact that this was a horrible, horrible play based simply on
his raise. And I seriously doubt this guy was even thinking about pot odds!
After all, there was around 300 in the pot when he raised it to just 160!
Did you think of that?

And now you are calling me names and using abusive language. I think that
shows who the idiot here is. At least when I get into a heated debate, which
is going to happen a lot on here, I don't insult people and use abusive
language.
Post by DP75089
Post by Jaffa
Post by DP75089
From your response to my first post, clearly you didn't understand.
But I'm not an idiot
Everything you've said to this point, as well as your subsequent
statements prove otherwise.
Post by Jaffa
and what you were stating was simple math.
Post by DP75089
In fact, it didn't need to be posted at all. But that didn't stop you,
did it?
See, this was the problem all along, you read a BAHH and decided you didn't
like it
Further proof of what an idiot you are. I didn't say it didn't need to be
posted because I didn't like it. Hell, I didn't even criticize your
original post. My point was that if you didn't want any responses to your
post, posting it was pointless.
Post by Jaffa
so decided to tell me that it wasn't such a bad beat.
I didn't tell you it wasn't such a bad beat, you illiterate fuck. I told
you the other guy's play wasn't as bad as you made it out to be.
Post by Jaffa
If it didn't need to be posted, how hard is it just to skip the post huh?
See explanation above. Then ask your mommy to explain the explanation to
you. You clearly lack the equipment to comprehend much of anything.
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DP75089
2005-10-01 18:23:23 UTC
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Post by Jaffa
This is my last post on this topic.
That's just as well. You've consistently demonstrated a complete
inability to say anything even remotely intelligent.
Post by Jaffa
But, this post was simply me showing a bad beat.
Bullshit. It was you ragging on the guy who won for his "awful play".
You've said this yourself multiple times.
Post by Jaffa
I don't see why anyone really needed to comment on anyone's play.
Because we felt like it. What about that is so difficult to get through
that chunk of concrete you call a skull?
Post by Jaffa
Your reply did not enlighten me
Given your repeated displays of stupidity on this issue the fault there I
seriously doubt your ability to be enlightened by any means.
Post by Jaffa
in any way. Note how most of the replies simply read "oh, tough luck", or
"that was horrible".
Note that all of the replies (except for yours) to my observation were in
agreement with me?
Post by Jaffa
You basically continue to try and tell me that this guys play wasn't so bad.
Because on the whole, it wasn't.
Post by Jaffa
Well we all understand his pot odds here, but if you think raising in early
position, when there is already two limpers and 8 players at the table with
72 isn't such a horrible play, then I would like to sit at a poker table
with you any day.
In addition to being a reactionary jackass, you're functionally
illiterate. I (and everyone who agreed with me) already stipulated that
his steal attempt was a bad idea. I said this repeatedly, so clearly I
didn't think it was a GOOD idea. You fucking moron.
Post by Jaffa
The fact that he had the pot odds to call does not take
away from the fact that this was a horrible, horrible play based simply on
his raise.
His initial raise was only one part of his play. Once you gave him the
odds to call your re-raise his play cannot be seriously faulted. I fail
to see what is so difficult about this for you to comprehend.
Post by Jaffa
And I seriously doubt this guy was even thinking about pot odds!
How the fuck do you know? His play says otherwise.
Post by Jaffa
After all, there was around 300 in the pot when he raised it to just 160!
Did you think of that?
I'd advise you to just put a bullet in your head and end your miserable
existence right now, but it's obvious that you're already dead from the
neck up. You keep belabouring the one part of his play that I've already
said was bad. You fucking moron.
Post by Jaffa
And now you are calling me names and using abusive language.
If you insist on repeatedly behaving like a fucking moron, why should you
take umbrage at being identified as such? If you expect to be addressed
with more respect, then stop being a fucking moron. You fucking moron.
Post by Jaffa
I think that shows who the idiot here is.
I hope it does, since I keep telling you. You fucking moron.
Post by Jaffa
At least when I get into a heated debate, which
is going to happen a lot on here, I don't insult people and use abusive
language.
Probably because your opponents don't talk like fucking morons.

Sorry for the ad nauseum use of the label "fucking moron", but it's really
the only description of you that seems to fit.

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Minor Glitch
2005-10-02 14:07:17 UTC
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Post by DP75089
Most who have posted on this thread (with the
exception of the OP) seem, on average, to be fairly bright individuals.
Maybe you were more awe-struck by John's rather straight-forward point
than most.
After everything else you have called me, I am going to assume that I am
one of the "fairly bright individuals." I don't think you will be calling
me that in any "OT" thread.

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DP75089
2005-10-02 16:01:12 UTC
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Post by Minor Glitch
After everything else you have called me, I am going to assume that I am
one of the "fairly bright individuals." I don't think you will be calling
me that in any "OT" thread.
Well...I did qualify that with "most" ;-)

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Mosco
2005-10-19 18:16:47 UTC
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How does anyone think this guys had the right odds to call??? He was
nearly a 4:1 underdog and not getting close to those odds. You can say
that he assumed AK, but that just means he made a bad assumption and
made an incorrect call. Just because you put someone on a hand doesn't
make a bad call good. You have to assign some probability (especially
early in a SNG) that the player who re-raised might have a pair, and if
he does, it's probably above 7 (more pairs higher than 7 then lower
than 7). With that mix the call was bad pre-flop.

He was raising pre-flop to steal??? If he was first in with a minimum
raise, fine, but a min raise after two limpers isn't going to steal
anything. If he has the pot odd knowledge you want to give him, he
knows that raise will not win the pot for him. Don't come back with,
"he was trying to set up his flop play". Pretty doubtful in a $10 SNG.

27 made a bad call, hit a lucky flop and got paid. Nothing more to see
here.
Jaffa
2005-10-19 20:54:54 UTC
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Post by Mosco
How does anyone think this guys had the right odds to call??? He was
nearly a 4:1 underdog and not getting close to those odds. You can say
that he assumed AK, but that just means he made a bad assumption and
made an incorrect call. Just because you put someone on a hand doesn't
make a bad call good. You have to assign some probability (especially
early in a SNG) that the player who re-raised might have a pair, and if
he does, it's probably above 7 (more pairs higher than 7 then lower
than 7). With that mix the call was bad pre-flop.
He was raising pre-flop to steal??? If he was first in with a minimum
raise, fine, but a min raise after two limpers isn't going to steal
anything. If he has the pot odd knowledge you want to give him, he
knows that raise will not win the pot for him. Don't come back with,
"he was trying to set up his flop play". Pretty doubtful in a $10 SNG.
27 made a bad call, hit a lucky flop and got paid. Nothing more to see
here.
You're a bit late, but spot on!

I guess that was the kind of reply I expected and didn't really expect
anyone to defend his play.

:-)
foldem
2005-09-29 17:57:43 UTC
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On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:05:40 GMT, "Jaffa"
Post by Jaffa
What the hell was this guy thinking?
"Mmmmmm - Donuts!"

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DP75089
2005-09-29 18:28:19 UTC
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I'm going to play devil's advocate here and postulate that his play wasn't
Post by Jaffa
What the hell was this guy thinking?
Yet another moron rewarded.
FullTiltPoker Game #234377898: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (1498862), Table 1 -
40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:06:54 ET - 2005/09/28
Seat 2: mrjaffa (1,635)
Seat 3: frog21 (890)
Seat 4: alosh757 (3,786)
Seat 5: buckmastr (1,780)
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl (1,444)
Seat 7: HeyGuy (1,000)
Seat 8: jayblimpie (1,855)
Seat 9: Jonesy15 (1,110)
alosh757 posts the small blind of 40
buckmastr posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mrjaffa [As Ad]
SJerseyGirl calls 80
HeyGuy calls 80
OK. At this point there's T280 in the pot.
Post by Jaffa
jayblimpie raises to 160
Obviously a steal attempt, albeit a bad, weak one. Maybe he was thinking
that by raising enough to encourage a call he was representing AA and
would scare everyone off. Not a completely stupid idea.
Post by Jaffa
Jonesy15 folds
mrjaffa raises to 500
frog21 folds
alosh757 folds
buckmastr folds
SJerseyGirl folds
HeyGuy folds
There's now T940 in the pot and a call will cost him T340. That's ~2.75:1
pot odds, and in some books an automatic call with any two cards. We just
happen to know that he's a 4:1 dog here, though you could have made the
same raise with AKs, which would make him a 2.3:1 dog, and give him
correct odds.
Post by Jaffa
jayblimpie calls 340
*** FLOP *** [2c 7d Qc]
jayblimpie bets 1,280
Given your pre-flop raise I'd be afraid of QQ here, but I think it's not a
bad all-in.
Post by Jaffa
mrjaffa calls 1,135, and is all in
Given the pre-flop action and the all-in I'd seriously suspect a set of 7s
here. Lot's of people at this level will make little raises pre-flop
w/middle pairs. Tough lay-down though.

Note that I'm by no means suggesting that his play was smart....just that
it's not as stupid as it initially appears.


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2005-09-29 18:54:43 UTC
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I love it that someone has actually tried to defend this guys play.

Lol.
Post by DP75089
Note that I'm by no means suggesting that his play was smart....just that
it's not as stupid as it initially appears.
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2005-09-29 19:14:18 UTC
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Post by Jaffa
I love it that someone has actually tried to defend this guys play.
Lol.
I love that you're unable to understand the qualification I gave below, as
well the fact that you resort to dismissive hand-waving rather than
telling me specifically what's wrong with what I said.
Post by Jaffa
Post by DP75089
Note that I'm by no means suggesting that his play was smart....just that
it's not as stupid as it initially appears.
- "So she says, "You wanna' be evil?" And I say, "Yeah, baby. Yeah!
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2005-09-29 20:04:16 UTC
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It's just that I've posted a few BAHH in the past, cos I like to whinge, and
someone always tries to pull me up about my play or tell me how I could have
done it differently etc.

Just didn't think anyone would comment as you did on the play. It was a very
stupid play by this guy. Can't even justify it as a steal as he was in
early position.

End of.
Post by DP75089
Post by Jaffa
I love it that someone has actually tried to defend this guys play.
Lol.
I love that you're unable to understand the qualification I gave below, as
well the fact that you resort to dismissive hand-waving rather than
telling me specifically what's wrong with what I said.
Post by Jaffa
Post by DP75089
Note that I'm by no means suggesting that his play was smart....just that
it's not as stupid as it initially appears.
- "So she says, "You wanna' be evil?" And I say, "Yeah, baby. Yeah!
'Cuz I'm the Midnight Bomber...what bombs at midnight!!!"
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2005-09-29 20:19:19 UTC
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Post by Jaffa
It's just that I've posted a few BAHH in the past, cos I like to whinge
Well, that's your God-given right.
Post by Jaffa
, and someone always tries to pull me up about my play or tell me how I could
have
Post by Jaffa
done it differently etc.
I did none of those things.
Post by Jaffa
Just didn't think anyone would comment as you did on the play.
Maybe that's because you didn't really think about it all that much before
hand.
Post by Jaffa
It was a very stupid play by this guy.
You keep saying that. I explained why it wasn't as stupid as you think,
and all you've countered with is, "Was so!"
Post by Jaffa
Can't even justify it as a steal as he was in early position.
You can't steal from EP? Besides, I already said it was a weak
attempt...but he still had borderline odds to call your re-raise,
especially if you take implied odds into account. His pre-flop raise was
ill-advised...but I wouldn't call the remainder of his play "very stupid",
not at all.


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2005-09-29 20:22:10 UTC
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Post by Jaffa
It's just that I've posted a few BAHH in the past, cos I like to whinge, and
someone always tries to pull me up about my play or tell me how I could have
done it differently etc.
Just didn't think anyone would comment as you did on the play. It was a very
stupid play by this guy. Can't even justify it as a steal as he was in
early position.
End of.
Or not the end of.

He tried to bluff (poorly) and you raised.

You didn't raise enough on the flop for his call to be clearly wrong -- DP
showed you that. If you had raised less you could have gotten away from
the hand on the flop and if you had raised more he should have folded
preflop... so he played bad but you could have played better.

This stuff happens. It is not that unusual or noteworthy.

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2005-09-29 20:35:09 UTC
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Post by Jaffa
It's just that I've posted a few BAHH in the past, cos I like to whinge, and
someone always tries to pull me up about my play or tell me how I could have
done it differently etc.
Just didn't think anyone would comment as you did on the play. It was a very
stupid play by this guy. Can't even justify it as a steal as he was in
early position.
End of.
No, it's just that "they" (myself included) are trying to help you learn.
No one knows everything there is to know about poker, and you seem to post
every single bad beat you receive. Someone tries to explain the hand
using poker theory, and you immediately dismiss them.

It's getting old, it really is. I know you think the thing with KJ in EP
is a joke, and I know you think that DP is a moron for trying to explain
the math behind the person's play. However, if you would get over
yourself and read the replies to your posts, you may learn something.
Sure, the guy was a moron for playing 27o, but at least take the time to
read the post through to understand that if you were playing against
someone who knew what they were doing with "any 2" there, that you would
seem like the idiot.

As I said before, if you don't want any replies or input on your hands you
post, put that in the subject, or at least the message. Or better yet,
print them out and frame them. If you don't want any help or insight,
that's fine, just let RGP know so we don't waste any more time on you.

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fffurken
2005-09-29 21:35:34 UTC
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Post by XaQ Morphy
As I said before, if you don't want any replies or input on your hands you
post, put that in the subject, or at least the message. Or better yet,
print them out and frame them.
Excellent!

It's clear a lot of people that post BAHH don't want any constructive
response which defeats the purpose if you ask me.
XaQ Morphy
2005-09-29 23:05:53 UTC
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Post by fffurken
Excellent!
It's clear a lot of people that post BAHH don't want any constructive
response which defeats the purpose if you ask me.
I agree. There are times that people will post a "check this crazy hand
out" BAHH, or will specifically say "no comment necessary," but that's not
the case here, unfortunately.

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2005-09-29 21:11:20 UTC
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WAIT....T= Total?

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2005-09-29 21:10:30 UTC
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Post by DP75089
I'm going to play devil's advocate here and postulate that his play wasn't
"..OK. At this point there's T280 in the pot"

This has been bugging me for quite sometime and I have never thought to
ask out of fear of being labled a moron. I have since PROVEN my stature in
the world of the moronic, I now feel I can safely ask what has been
bugging me.

What does the "T" stand for before 280? (T280)?

Thx.
Post by DP75089
Post by Jaffa
FullTiltPoker Game #234377898: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (1498862), Table 1 -
40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:06:54 ET - 2005/09/28
Seat 2: mrjaffa (1,635)
Seat 3: frog21 (890)
Seat 4: alosh757 (3,786)
Seat 5: buckmastr (1,780)
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl (1,444)
Seat 7: HeyGuy (1,000)
Seat 8: jayblimpie (1,855)
Seat 9: Jonesy15 (1,110)
alosh757 posts the small blind of 40
buckmastr posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mrjaffa [As Ad]
SJerseyGirl calls 80
HeyGuy calls 80
OK. At this point there's T280 in the pot.
Post by Jaffa
jayblimpie raises to 160
Obviously a steal attempt, albeit a bad, weak one. Maybe he was thinking
that by raising enough to encourage a call he was representing AA and
would scare everyone off. Not a completely stupid idea.
Post by Jaffa
Jonesy15 folds
mrjaffa raises to 500
frog21 folds
alosh757 folds
buckmastr folds
SJerseyGirl folds
HeyGuy folds
There's now T940 in the pot and a call will cost him T340. That's ~2.75:1
pot odds, and in some books an automatic call with any two cards. We just
happen to know that he's a 4:1 dog here, though you could have made the
same raise with AKs, which would make him a 2.3:1 dog, and give him
correct odds.
Post by Jaffa
jayblimpie calls 340
*** FLOP *** [2c 7d Qc]
jayblimpie bets 1,280
Given your pre-flop raise I'd be afraid of QQ here, but I think it's not a
bad all-in.
Post by Jaffa
mrjaffa calls 1,135, and is all in
Given the pre-flop action and the all-in I'd seriously suspect a set of 7s
here. Lot's of people at this level will make little raises pre-flop
w/middle pairs. Tough lay-down though.
Note that I'm by no means suggesting that his play was smart....just that
it's not as stupid as it initially appears.
- "So she says, "You wanna' be evil?" And I say, "Yeah, baby. Yeah!
'Cuz I'm the Midnight Bomber...what bombs at midnight!!!"
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Minor Glitch
2005-09-29 21:12:47 UTC
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T= Tournament chips.

Since the chips are not equal to real dollars in a tournament, you don't
use a "$" sign.
Post by Kinnipak
Post by DP75089
I'm going to play devil's advocate here and postulate that his play wasn't
"..OK. At this point there's T280 in the pot"
This has been bugging me for quite sometime and I have never thought to
ask out of fear of being labled a moron. I have since PROVEN my stature in
the world of the moronic, I now feel I can safely ask what has been
bugging me.
What does the "T" stand for before 280? (T280)?
Thx.
Post by DP75089
Post by Jaffa
FullTiltPoker Game #234377898: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (1498862), Table 1 -
40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:06:54 ET - 2005/09/28
Seat 2: mrjaffa (1,635)
Seat 3: frog21 (890)
Seat 4: alosh757 (3,786)
Seat 5: buckmastr (1,780)
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl (1,444)
Seat 7: HeyGuy (1,000)
Seat 8: jayblimpie (1,855)
Seat 9: Jonesy15 (1,110)
alosh757 posts the small blind of 40
buckmastr posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mrjaffa [As Ad]
SJerseyGirl calls 80
HeyGuy calls 80
OK. At this point there's T280 in the pot.
Post by Jaffa
jayblimpie raises to 160
Obviously a steal attempt, albeit a bad, weak one. Maybe he was thinking
that by raising enough to encourage a call he was representing AA and
would scare everyone off. Not a completely stupid idea.
Post by Jaffa
Jonesy15 folds
mrjaffa raises to 500
frog21 folds
alosh757 folds
buckmastr folds
SJerseyGirl folds
HeyGuy folds
There's now T940 in the pot and a call will cost him T340. That's ~2.75:1
pot odds, and in some books an automatic call with any two cards. We just
happen to know that he's a 4:1 dog here, though you could have made the
same raise with AKs, which would make him a 2.3:1 dog, and give him
correct odds.
Post by Jaffa
jayblimpie calls 340
*** FLOP *** [2c 7d Qc]
jayblimpie bets 1,280
Given your pre-flop raise I'd be afraid of QQ here, but I think it's not a
bad all-in.
Post by Jaffa
mrjaffa calls 1,135, and is all in
Given the pre-flop action and the all-in I'd seriously suspect a set of 7s
here. Lot's of people at this level will make little raises pre-flop
w/middle pairs. Tough lay-down though.
Note that I'm by no means suggesting that his play was smart....just that
it's not as stupid as it initially appears.
- "So she says, "You wanna' be evil?" And I say, "Yeah, baby. Yeah!
'Cuz I'm the Midnight Bomber...what bombs at midnight!!!"
--
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lost or gained its simple transferred from one perception to another.
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2005-09-29 21:19:23 UTC
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Post by Minor Glitch
T= Tournament chips.
Since the chips are not equal to real dollars in a tournament, you don't
use a "$" sign.
Thx.
Post by Minor Glitch
Post by Kinnipak
Post by DP75089
I'm going to play devil's advocate here and postulate that his play wasn't
"..OK. At this point there's T280 in the pot"
This has been bugging me for quite sometime and I have never thought to
ask out of fear of being labled a moron. I have since PROVEN my stature in
the world of the moronic, I now feel I can safely ask what has been
bugging me.
What does the "T" stand for before 280? (T280)?
Thx.
Post by DP75089
Post by Jaffa
FullTiltPoker Game #234377898: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (1498862), Table 1 -
40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:06:54 ET - 2005/09/28
Seat 2: mrjaffa (1,635)
Seat 3: frog21 (890)
Seat 4: alosh757 (3,786)
Seat 5: buckmastr (1,780)
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl (1,444)
Seat 7: HeyGuy (1,000)
Seat 8: jayblimpie (1,855)
Seat 9: Jonesy15 (1,110)
alosh757 posts the small blind of 40
buckmastr posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mrjaffa [As Ad]
SJerseyGirl calls 80
HeyGuy calls 80
OK. At this point there's T280 in the pot.
Post by Jaffa
jayblimpie raises to 160
Obviously a steal attempt, albeit a bad, weak one. Maybe he was thinking
that by raising enough to encourage a call he was representing AA and
would scare everyone off. Not a completely stupid idea.
Post by Jaffa
Jonesy15 folds
mrjaffa raises to 500
frog21 folds
alosh757 folds
buckmastr folds
SJerseyGirl folds
HeyGuy folds
There's now T940 in the pot and a call will cost him T340. That's ~2.75:1
pot odds, and in some books an automatic call with any two cards. We just
happen to know that he's a 4:1 dog here, though you could have made the
same raise with AKs, which would make him a 2.3:1 dog, and give him
correct odds.
Post by Jaffa
jayblimpie calls 340
*** FLOP *** [2c 7d Qc]
jayblimpie bets 1,280
Given your pre-flop raise I'd be afraid of QQ here, but I think it's not a
bad all-in.
Post by Jaffa
mrjaffa calls 1,135, and is all in
Given the pre-flop action and the all-in I'd seriously suspect a set of 7s
here. Lot's of people at this level will make little raises pre-flop
w/middle pairs. Tough lay-down though.
Note that I'm by no means suggesting that his play was smart....just that
it's not as stupid as it initially appears.
- "So she says, "You wanna' be evil?" And I say, "Yeah, baby. Yeah!
'Cuz I'm the Midnight Bomber...what bombs at midnight!!!"
--
It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses. Money itself isn't
lost or gained its simple transferred from one perception to another.
- MG
"Our President's crazy, Did you hear what he said?"
- Talking Heads, "Making Flippy Floppy"
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DP75089
2005-09-29 21:31:14 UTC
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Post by Kinnipak
"..OK. At this point there's T280 in the pot"
This has been bugging me for quite sometime and I have never thought to
ask out of fear of being labled a moron. I have since PROVEN my stature in
the world of the moronic, I now feel I can safely ask what has been
bugging me.
What does the "T" stand for before 280? (T280)?
LOL! Nothing moronic in that question (at least I hope not). It took me
a few tries to figure that one out at first too. For a while I thought it
was some foreign currency I'd never heard of. ;-)


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2005-09-29 20:01:19 UTC
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He took you to the cleaners. Pre-flop he played like crap, post-flop was
perfect.

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2005-09-29 20:35:00 UTC
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Yep, he out played me.
Post by Minor Glitch
He took you to the cleaners. Pre-flop he played like crap, post-flop was
perfect.
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Post by Jaffa
Yep, he out played me.
He tried to bluff (poorly) and you raised.
You didn't raise enough on the flop for his call to be clearly wrong -- DP
showed you that. If you had raised less you could have gotten away from
the hand on the flop and if you had raised more he should have folded
preflop... so he played bad but you could have played better.
This stuff happens. It is not that unusual or noteworthy.
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DP75089
2005-09-29 20:58:02 UTC
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Post by Jaffa
Yep, he out played me.
I hate to belabor Morphy's well-put point...but you really are being
childish and rather thick-headed about this. First off, MG didn't say you
were out-played. He said that the guy's post-flop play was correct...and
it was. Furthermore, while his pre-flop raise was questionable, to say
the very least, his call of your re-raise is mathematically defensible,
even if only marginally so.

Losing with AA to the worst hand in poker sucks, no doubt. But you can
either analyze the sequence of moves rationally and benefit from it, or
you can do what you've done so far. Namely, piss and moan because no one
is heaping pity on you.


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2005-09-29 21:12:59 UTC
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Post by DP75089
I hate to belabor Morphy's well-put point
Eek, I hope this doesn't ruin my reputation?
Post by DP75089
Losing with AA to the worst hand in poker sucks, no doubt. But you can
either analyze the sequence of moves rationally and benefit from it, or
you can do what you've done so far. Namely, piss and moan because no one
is heaping pity on you.
To Jaffa: it's not that DP was saying that your opponent wasn't an idiot.
He was merely stating that if you look at the math behind it, his play
was close to correct. Remember that poker is about making correct
decisions, not about what idiot plays what hand. If you bet poorly and
give a guy with 27o, 23o, AK, 28, or a pair of potatoes the odds to call,
you've made an incorrect decision.

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2005-09-29 21:36:20 UTC
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Post by XaQ Morphy
Post by DP75089
I hate to belabor Morphy's well-put point
Eek, I hope this doesn't ruin my reputation?
Well, that's pretty easy to remedy if you're really concerned about it.
Post by XaQ Morphy
To Jaffa: it's not that DP was saying that your opponent wasn't an idiot.
Well, to be perfectly accurate, I would say that given the slim amount of
evidence we were presented with I'd say that we can't conclusively state
that he *was* an idiot. Only that he made a poorly-executed attempt at a
pre-flop steal...if in fact that's what he was trying to do. Everything
else he did was defensible, albeit not brilliant.


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Jaffa
2005-09-29 21:41:48 UTC
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Oh good god! How did this post end this way?

I understand the math..... I did nothing wrong here..... I understand my
raise gave him good pot odds but I'm not gonna raise huge, I want some
action.

And Morphy, u really think this is every bad beat I experience? I play at
least 8-10 tournaments a day. So I think not.

Yet again one of these posts has ended in people trying to give advice or
criticize me. This hand certainly does not need that! I understand what DP
was saying but my post was really just to laugh at the guy with 27. Did I
ask, "Should I have played this differently?". No....

And I did not think that the post regarding KJ was a joke. Was a "healthy"
debate. And I'll even admit that maybe I did learn something from that post.

But now get off my back and just admire this guy's awful play.

Sheeeeeeeeeeesh.
Post by XaQ Morphy
Post by DP75089
I hate to belabor Morphy's well-put point
Eek, I hope this doesn't ruin my reputation?
Post by DP75089
Losing with AA to the worst hand in poker sucks, no doubt. But you can
either analyze the sequence of moves rationally and benefit from it, or
you can do what you've done so far. Namely, piss and moan because no one
is heaping pity on you.
To Jaffa: it's not that DP was saying that your opponent wasn't an idiot.
He was merely stating that if you look at the math behind it, his play
was close to correct. Remember that poker is about making correct
decisions, not about what idiot plays what hand. If you bet poorly and
give a guy with 27o, 23o, AK, 28, or a pair of potatoes the odds to call,
you've made an incorrect decision.
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DP75089
2005-09-29 21:57:03 UTC
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Post by Jaffa
Oh good god! How did this post end this way?
Mostly due to your pig-headedness.
Post by Jaffa
I understand the math..... I did nothing wrong here..... I understand my
raise gave him good pot odds but I'm not gonna raise huge, I want some
action.
Then why are you insisting that his call was stupid? Either you
understand that he had the odds to call, or you don't. Either you
understand that his initial raise was probably a steal attempt, or you
don't.
Post by Jaffa
Yet again one of these posts has ended in people trying to give advice or
criticize me.
No. It has ended in people trying to explain to you why the other guy's
play was not as stupid as you keep insisting it was. I pointed that out
first, quite politely, and you responded by being an obnoxious jackass
about it.
Post by Jaffa
This hand certainly does not need that! I understand what DP
was saying
Then your response to my first post is even more idiotic than I thought.
Post by Jaffa
but my post was really just to laugh at the guy with 27.
He made defensible plays (for the most part) and took your money. I'm
glad you can find humor in that.
Post by Jaffa
Did I ask, "Should I have played this differently?". No....
Another dipshit who thinks people's responses should be restricted to
questions that they're directly asked.
Post by Jaffa
But now get off my back and just admire this guy's awful play.
You couldn't be more clueless if you tried.


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Minor Glitch
2005-09-29 22:08:52 UTC
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Post by Jaffa
Oh good god! How did this post end this way?
Because you posted a bad beat hand and whined about it. The fact is the
beat was not so bad and the other guy didn't make any really big mistake.
Post by Jaffa
I understand the math..... I did nothing wrong here..... I understand my
raise gave him good pot odds but I'm not gonna raise huge, I want some
action.
Yes, you did something wrong. You say: "I'm not gonna raise huge, I want
some action." Indeed! That means you are willing to take the risk of
being outdrawn. Look at the hand -- a bigger OR a smaller raise would
have been better. You gave the right odds and made an all-in (and your
call) inevitable.

Also, you put most of your money in when you were behind... I don't think
I would have laid down AA here either, but that is the undeniable fact.
Post by Jaffa
Yet again one of these posts has ended in people trying to give advice or
criticize me. This hand certainly does not need that!
If you don't want responses, don't post. And you can always learn -- even
on a hand like this. You may still have lost, but it could have been
played better.
Post by Jaffa
But now get off my back and just admire this guy's awful play.
Very sensative, are we?

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XaQ Morphy
2005-09-29 23:09:30 UTC
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Post by Jaffa
But now get off my back
Done.

PLONK.

Enjoy.

Oh, and have a nice day.

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DBPOKERCHGO
2005-09-30 15:13:15 UTC
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Jaffa, that picture you have as an avitar, is it one of a famous actress?
Post by Jaffa
What the hell was this guy thinking?
Yet another moron rewarded.
FullTiltPoker Game #234377898: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (1498862), Table 1 -
40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:06:54 ET - 2005/09/28
Seat 2: mrjaffa (1,635)
Seat 3: frog21 (890)
Seat 4: alosh757 (3,786)
Seat 5: buckmastr (1,780)
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl (1,444)
Seat 7: HeyGuy (1,000)
Seat 8: jayblimpie (1,855)
Seat 9: Jonesy15 (1,110)
alosh757 posts the small blind of 40
buckmastr posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mrjaffa [As Ad]
SJerseyGirl calls 80
HeyGuy calls 80
jayblimpie raises to 160
Jonesy15 folds
mrjaffa raises to 500
frog21 folds
alosh757 folds
buckmastr folds
SJerseyGirl folds
HeyGuy folds
jayblimpie calls 340
*** FLOP *** [2c 7d Qc]
jayblimpie bets 1,280
mrjaffa calls 1,135, and is all in
jayblimpie shows [2h 7c]
mrjaffa shows [As Ad]
Uncalled bet of 145 returned to jayblimpie
*** TURN *** [2c 7d Qc] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [2c 7d Qc 3h] [7s]
jayblimpie shows a full house, Sevens full of Twos
mrjaffa shows two pair, Aces and Sevens
jayblimpie wins the pot (3,550) with a full house, Sevens full of Twos
Jonesy15: omg
mrjaffa stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,550 | Rake 0
Board: [2c 7d Qc 3h 7s]
Seat 2: mrjaffa showed [As Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 3: frog21 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: alosh757 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: buckmastr (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl folded before the Flop
Seat 7: HeyGuy folded before the Flop
Seat 8: jayblimpie showed [2h 7c] and won (3,550) with a full house, Sevens
full of Twos
Seat 9: Jonesy15 didn't bet (folded)
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Jaffa
2005-09-30 15:51:22 UTC
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No, just Mrs Jaffa.

:-)
Post by DBPOKERCHGO
Jaffa, that picture you have as an avitar, is it one of a famous actress?
Post by Jaffa
What the hell was this guy thinking?
Yet another moron rewarded.
FullTiltPoker Game #234377898: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (1498862), Table 1 -
40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:06:54 ET - 2005/09/28
Seat 2: mrjaffa (1,635)
Seat 3: frog21 (890)
Seat 4: alosh757 (3,786)
Seat 5: buckmastr (1,780)
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl (1,444)
Seat 7: HeyGuy (1,000)
Seat 8: jayblimpie (1,855)
Seat 9: Jonesy15 (1,110)
alosh757 posts the small blind of 40
buckmastr posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mrjaffa [As Ad]
SJerseyGirl calls 80
HeyGuy calls 80
jayblimpie raises to 160
Jonesy15 folds
mrjaffa raises to 500
frog21 folds
alosh757 folds
buckmastr folds
SJerseyGirl folds
HeyGuy folds
jayblimpie calls 340
*** FLOP *** [2c 7d Qc]
jayblimpie bets 1,280
mrjaffa calls 1,135, and is all in
jayblimpie shows [2h 7c]
mrjaffa shows [As Ad]
Uncalled bet of 145 returned to jayblimpie
*** TURN *** [2c 7d Qc] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [2c 7d Qc 3h] [7s]
jayblimpie shows a full house, Sevens full of Twos
mrjaffa shows two pair, Aces and Sevens
jayblimpie wins the pot (3,550) with a full house, Sevens full of Twos
Jonesy15: omg
mrjaffa stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,550 | Rake 0
Board: [2c 7d Qc 3h 7s]
Seat 2: mrjaffa showed [As Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 3: frog21 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: alosh757 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: buckmastr (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl folded before the Flop
Seat 7: HeyGuy folded before the Flop
Seat 8: jayblimpie showed [2h 7c] and won (3,550) with a full house, Sevens
full of Twos
Seat 9: Jonesy15 didn't bet (folded)
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flopalock
2005-09-30 17:47:22 UTC
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i dont get it? he had two pair, you had one. he accomplished exactly what he
wanted to. whats your point?
Post by Jaffa
What the hell was this guy thinking?
Yet another moron rewarded.
FullTiltPoker Game #234377898: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (1498862), Table 1 -
40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:06:54 ET - 2005/09/28
Seat 2: mrjaffa (1,635)
Seat 3: frog21 (890)
Seat 4: alosh757 (3,786)
Seat 5: buckmastr (1,780)
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl (1,444)
Seat 7: HeyGuy (1,000)
Seat 8: jayblimpie (1,855)
Seat 9: Jonesy15 (1,110)
alosh757 posts the small blind of 40
buckmastr posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mrjaffa [As Ad]
SJerseyGirl calls 80
HeyGuy calls 80
jayblimpie raises to 160
Jonesy15 folds
mrjaffa raises to 500
frog21 folds
alosh757 folds
buckmastr folds
SJerseyGirl folds
HeyGuy folds
jayblimpie calls 340
*** FLOP *** [2c 7d Qc]
jayblimpie bets 1,280
mrjaffa calls 1,135, and is all in
jayblimpie shows [2h 7c]
mrjaffa shows [As Ad]
Uncalled bet of 145 returned to jayblimpie
*** TURN *** [2c 7d Qc] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [2c 7d Qc 3h] [7s]
jayblimpie shows a full house, Sevens full of Twos
mrjaffa shows two pair, Aces and Sevens
jayblimpie wins the pot (3,550) with a full house, Sevens full of Twos
Jonesy15: omg
mrjaffa stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,550 | Rake 0
Board: [2c 7d Qc 3h 7s]
Seat 2: mrjaffa showed [As Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 3: frog21 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: alosh757 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: buckmastr (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl folded before the Flop
Seat 7: HeyGuy folded before the Flop
Seat 8: jayblimpie showed [2h 7c] and won (3,550) with a full house,
Sevens full of Twos
Seat 9: Jonesy15 didn't bet (folded)
Jaffa
2005-09-30 18:21:59 UTC
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Post by flopalock
i dont get it? he had two pair, you had one. he accomplished exactly what
he wanted to. whats your point?
I won't bite.

:-)
Will_gamble
2005-10-19 20:34:24 UTC
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I'll one up you... 10/10 MP and limp. 3 callers and SB raise 3x. I call.
Flop K 8 3 rainbow. He bets 140 and I call to see what he does on the
turn since I have position. Turn is a 10. He goes all in for 680 chips
and I call. He shows AQ to my set of 10's... You guessed it, River is a
jack and he wins with a straight.

Who in there right mind goes all in with no pair after a smooth call of a
large bet for the blind level?

To make things worse, Party has observer chat disabled so I couldn't call
him stupid in front of everyone... Well, it is childish, but it makes me
feel better. :)

I really like the SnG format and I am guessing I have the best hand most
of the time going into showdowns, but I get sucked out on enough that it
is really hard to make money playing them. I did better at ring games,
but they are Sooooo boring.

Not to worry, what goes around comes around.
Post by Jaffa
What the hell was this guy thinking?
Yet another moron rewarded.
FullTiltPoker Game #234377898: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (1498862), Table 1 -
40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:06:54 ET - 2005/09/28
Seat 2: mrjaffa (1,635)
Seat 3: frog21 (890)
Seat 4: alosh757 (3,786)
Seat 5: buckmastr (1,780)
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl (1,444)
Seat 7: HeyGuy (1,000)
Seat 8: jayblimpie (1,855)
Seat 9: Jonesy15 (1,110)
alosh757 posts the small blind of 40
buckmastr posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mrjaffa [As Ad]
SJerseyGirl calls 80
HeyGuy calls 80
jayblimpie raises to 160
Jonesy15 folds
mrjaffa raises to 500
frog21 folds
alosh757 folds
buckmastr folds
SJerseyGirl folds
HeyGuy folds
jayblimpie calls 340
*** FLOP *** [2c 7d Qc]
jayblimpie bets 1,280
mrjaffa calls 1,135, and is all in
jayblimpie shows [2h 7c]
mrjaffa shows [As Ad]
Uncalled bet of 145 returned to jayblimpie
*** TURN *** [2c 7d Qc] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [2c 7d Qc 3h] [7s]
jayblimpie shows a full house, Sevens full of Twos
mrjaffa shows two pair, Aces and Sevens
jayblimpie wins the pot (3,550) with a full house, Sevens full of Twos
Jonesy15: omg
mrjaffa stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,550 | Rake 0
Board: [2c 7d Qc 3h 7s]
Seat 2: mrjaffa showed [As Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 3: frog21 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: alosh757 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: buckmastr (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl folded before the Flop
Seat 7: HeyGuy folded before the Flop
Seat 8: jayblimpie showed [2h 7c] and won (3,550) with a full house, Sevens
full of Twos
Seat 9: Jonesy15 didn't bet (folded)
What's the difference in a duck?

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Jaffa
2005-10-19 21:01:00 UTC
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That is a typical play of someone who doesn't want to lay down what was a
good/decent hand pre flop, but what is no longer such a great hand as it
hasn't caught anything.

They make their flop bet and are called, but then all of a sudden, they have
a draw on the turn, be it a weak one, but they push in as they feel they
should win that hand.

Either that or he put you on nothing and simply made a bad bluff.

:-)
Post by Will_gamble
I'll one up you... 10/10 MP and limp. 3 callers and SB raise 3x. I call.
Flop K 8 3 rainbow. He bets 140 and I call to see what he does on the
turn since I have position. Turn is a 10. He goes all in for 680 chips
and I call. He shows AQ to my set of 10's... You guessed it, River is a
jack and he wins with a straight.
Who in there right mind goes all in with no pair after a smooth call of a
large bet for the blind level?
To make things worse, Party has observer chat disabled so I couldn't call
him stupid in front of everyone... Well, it is childish, but it makes me
feel better. :)
I really like the SnG format and I am guessing I have the best hand most
of the time going into showdowns, but I get sucked out on enough that it
is really hard to make money playing them. I did better at ring games,
but they are Sooooo boring.
Not to worry, what goes around comes around.
Post by Jaffa
What the hell was this guy thinking?
Yet another moron rewarded.
FullTiltPoker Game #234377898: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (1498862), Table 1 -
40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:06:54 ET - 2005/09/28
Seat 2: mrjaffa (1,635)
Seat 3: frog21 (890)
Seat 4: alosh757 (3,786)
Seat 5: buckmastr (1,780)
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl (1,444)
Seat 7: HeyGuy (1,000)
Seat 8: jayblimpie (1,855)
Seat 9: Jonesy15 (1,110)
alosh757 posts the small blind of 40
buckmastr posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mrjaffa [As Ad]
SJerseyGirl calls 80
HeyGuy calls 80
jayblimpie raises to 160
Jonesy15 folds
mrjaffa raises to 500
frog21 folds
alosh757 folds
buckmastr folds
SJerseyGirl folds
HeyGuy folds
jayblimpie calls 340
*** FLOP *** [2c 7d Qc]
jayblimpie bets 1,280
mrjaffa calls 1,135, and is all in
jayblimpie shows [2h 7c]
mrjaffa shows [As Ad]
Uncalled bet of 145 returned to jayblimpie
*** TURN *** [2c 7d Qc] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [2c 7d Qc 3h] [7s]
jayblimpie shows a full house, Sevens full of Twos
mrjaffa shows two pair, Aces and Sevens
jayblimpie wins the pot (3,550) with a full house, Sevens full of Twos
Jonesy15: omg
mrjaffa stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,550 | Rake 0
Board: [2c 7d Qc 3h 7s]
Seat 2: mrjaffa showed [As Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 3: frog21 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: alosh757 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: buckmastr (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: SJerseyGirl folded before the Flop
Seat 7: HeyGuy folded before the Flop
Seat 8: jayblimpie showed [2h 7c] and won (3,550) with a full house, Sevens
full of Twos
Seat 9: Jonesy15 didn't bet (folded)
What's the difference in a duck?
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Freeman (Ulbh)
2005-10-19 21:42:02 UTC
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You didn't say what the blind level was, so I can't say what his 11.5:1
shot (I actually typed that as sh*t first) was worth. This is like the
least favorable place for a semi-bluff for him; pot's too big and your
presumed hand too good to get a fold.

Your consolation is that if you have more donkeys like that in your
games, you'll win VAST STACKS OF CHIPS when their gambles don't pay
off.

He must have convinced himself that he could push you off, thinking you
only had a pair and he could represent, ah, a bigger pair ;-) It still
didn't make sense. Trying to ghost a player that dense is like falling
down a rabbit hole. I mean, really, even outside of poker sometimes I
meet someone, talk to them for a while, and start wondering "what
*would* it be like to be this stupid?" It's easier to run a mental
simulation of schizophrenia than to guess what might be bumbling around
in such a dim wasteland ...
Will_gamble
2005-10-20 12:55:27 UTC
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Very good post, you hit the nail on the head.

My problem with the 'donkeys pay you off' when they don't make theory is
there seems to be this endless source of donkeys that keep me from winning
much. I will get a second and third by playing my ass off and then get
donkey'd 4 times in a row and I am even again... Then the cycle repeats.
Add into the mix that I play poorly 1 out 5 tourneys and I just stay even
most of the time. It seems like I go for a fair amount of time playing
great and then I get donkey'd a couple times and I start playing a little
too reckless... you get into that 'everybody gets lucky on me, surely I
can get lucky on someone else'.... but it doesn't happen when you need it
too.

I just haven't convinced myself that SnG's or poker for that matter is a
winning proposition for me anymore. I am three years in the black, but
this year has been really flat.
Post by Freeman (Ulbh)
You didn't say what the blind level was, so I can't say what his 11.5:1
shot (I actually typed that as sh*t first) was worth. This is like the
least favorable place for a semi-bluff for him; pot's too big and your
presumed hand too good to get a fold.
Your consolation is that if you have more donkeys like that in your
games, you'll win VAST STACKS OF CHIPS when their gambles don't pay
off.
He must have convinced himself that he could push you off, thinking you
only had a pair and he could represent, ah, a bigger pair ;-) It still
didn't make sense. Trying to ghost a player that dense is like falling
down a rabbit hole. I mean, really, even outside of poker sometimes I
meet someone, talk to them for a while, and start wondering "what
*would* it be like to be this stupid?" It's easier to run a mental
simulation of schizophrenia than to guess what might be bumbling around
in such a dim wasteland ...
What's the difference in a duck?

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