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risky biz
2021-11-17 20:19:22 UTC
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IN FAVOR of surprise medical bills.

'The detente that allowed Congress to pass a law to curb surprise medical bills has disintegrated. A bipartisan group of 152 lawmakers have been assailing the Biden administration's plan to regulate the law and medical providers, warning of grim consequences for underserved patients.

For years, patients have faced these massive, unexpected bills when they get treatment from hospitals or doctors outside their insurance company's network. It often happens when patients seek care at an in-network hospital, but a physician such as an emergency room doctor or anesthesiologist who treats the patient is not covered by the insurance plan. The insurer would pay only a small part of the bill, and the unsuspecting patient would be responsible for the balance.

Congress passed the No Surprises Act last December to shield patients from that experience after long, hard-fought negotiations with providers and insurers finally yielded an agreement that lawmakers from both parties thought was fair: a 30-day negotiation period between health providers and insurers when disputes over bills arise, followed by arbitration if agreements can't be reached.

The rule, which would take effect in January 2022, effectively leaves patients out of the fight. Providers and insurers have to work it out among themselves, following the new policy.

'In releasing the rule, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services pointed to an analysis of the Congressional Budget Office that the No Surprises Act would lower health insurance premiums by about 1% and shave $17 billion off the federal deficit.

Rep. Larry Bucshon, R-Ind., who is a doctor and helped spearhead a letter of complaint this month, told us in a written statement.

Nearly half of the 152 lawmakers who signed that letter were Democrats, and many of the physicians serving in the House signed.

Some members of Congress who are also doctors held a conference call with the administration late last month to complain'
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/11/17/1056276890/surprise-medical-bills-doctors-congress
VegasJerry
2021-11-18 00:54:08 UTC
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IN FAVOR of surprise medical bills.
No, it does not. At issue is methods of arbitration rules.

And all this could be absolved with a single payer healthcare system, or Medicare for all.
Something Republicans vote against...
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'The detente that allowed Congress to pass a law to curb surprise medical bills has disintegrated. A bipartisan group of 152 lawmakers have been assailing the Biden administration's plan to regulate the law and medical providers, warning of grim consequences for underserved patients.
For years, patients have faced these massive, unexpected bills when they get treatment from hospitals or doctors outside their insurance company's network. It often happens when patients seek care at an in-network hospital, but a physician such as an emergency room doctor or anesthesiologist who treats the patient is not covered by the insurance plan. The insurer would pay only a small part of the bill, and the unsuspecting patient would be responsible for the balance.
Congress passed the No Surprises Act last December to shield patients from that experience after long, hard-fought negotiations with providers and insurers finally yielded an agreement that lawmakers from both parties thought was fair: a 30-day negotiation period between health providers and insurers when disputes over bills arise, followed by arbitration if agreements can't be reached.
The rule, which would take effect in January 2022, effectively leaves patients out of the fight. Providers and insurers have to work it out among themselves, following the new policy.
'In releasing the rule, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services pointed to an analysis of the Congressional Budget Office that the No Surprises Act would lower health insurance premiums by about 1% and shave $17 billion off the federal deficit.
Rep. Larry Bucshon, R-Ind., who is a doctor and helped spearhead a letter of complaint this month, told us in a written statement.
Nearly half of the 152 lawmakers who signed that letter were Democrats, and many of the physicians serving in the House signed.
Some members of Congress who are also doctors held a conference call with the administration late last month to complain'
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/11/17/1056276890/surprise-medical-bills-doctors-congress
risky biz
2021-11-18 01:21:55 UTC
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IN FAVOR of surprise medical bills.
~ No, it does not. At issue is methods of arbitration rules.

Doctors want rules that give them the nut hand.
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And all this could be absolved with a single payer healthcare system, or Medicare for all.
Something Republicans vote against...
Along with Barack Obama, James Clyburn, and Pete Buttigieg. The special interests that hire them as political gunslingers are unhappy that Biden is wavering and promulgating rules that give average Americans a leg to stand on.

If you wanted Medicare For All why did you vote for Biden?
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'The detente that allowed Congress to pass a law to curb surprise medical bills has disintegrated. A bipartisan group of 152 lawmakers have been assailing the Biden administration's plan to regulate the law and medical providers, warning of grim consequences for underserved patients.
For years, patients have faced these massive, unexpected bills when they get treatment from hospitals or doctors outside their insurance company's network. It often happens when patients seek care at an in-network hospital, but a physician such as an emergency room doctor or anesthesiologist who treats the patient is not covered by the insurance plan. The insurer would pay only a small part of the bill, and the unsuspecting patient would be responsible for the balance.
Congress passed the No Surprises Act last December to shield patients from that experience after long, hard-fought negotiations with providers and insurers finally yielded an agreement that lawmakers from both parties thought was fair: a 30-day negotiation period between health providers and insurers when disputes over bills arise, followed by arbitration if agreements can't be reached.
The rule, which would take effect in January 2022, effectively leaves patients out of the fight. Providers and insurers have to work it out among themselves, following the new policy.
'In releasing the rule, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services pointed to an analysis of the Congressional Budget Office that the No Surprises Act would lower health insurance premiums by about 1% and shave $17 billion off the federal deficit.
Rep. Larry Bucshon, R-Ind., who is a doctor and helped spearhead a letter of complaint this month, told us in a written statement.
Nearly half of the 152 lawmakers who signed that letter were Democrats, and many of the physicians serving in the House signed.
Some members of Congress who are also doctors held a conference call with the administration late last month to complain'
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/11/17/1056276890/surprise-medical-bills-doctors-congress
risky biz
2021-11-18 20:02:48 UTC
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IN FAVOR of surprise medical bills.
~ No, it does not. At issue is methods of arbitration rules.
Doctors want rules that give them the nut hand
~ Duh! But your: "Democrats take a stand in favor of surprise medical bills is not true."

'Nearly half of the 152 lawmakers who signed that letter were Democrats'
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And all this could be absolved with a single payer healthcare system, or Medicare for all.
Something Republicans vote against...
Along with Barack Obama, James Clyburn, and Pete Buttigieg. The special interests that hire them as political gunslingers are unhappy that Biden is wavering and promulgating rules that give average Americans a leg to stand on.
If you wanted Medicare For All why did you vote for Biden?
To make him President. Sanders wouldn't have got it.
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'The detente that allowed Congress to pass a law to curb surprise medical bills has disintegrated. A bipartisan group of 152 lawmakers have been assailing the Biden administration's plan to regulate the law and medical providers, warning of grim consequences for underserved patients.
For years, patients have faced these massive, unexpected bills when they get treatment from hospitals or doctors outside their insurance company's network. It often happens when patients seek care at an in-network hospital, but a physician such as an emergency room doctor or anesthesiologist who treats the patient is not covered by the insurance plan. The insurer would pay only a small part of the bill, and the unsuspecting patient would be responsible for the balance.
Congress passed the No Surprises Act last December to shield patients from that experience after long, hard-fought negotiations with providers and insurers finally yielded an agreement that lawmakers from both parties thought was fair: a 30-day negotiation period between health providers and insurers when disputes over bills arise, followed by arbitration if agreements can't be reached.
The rule, which would take effect in January 2022, effectively leaves patients out of the fight. Providers and insurers have to work it out among themselves, following the new policy.
'In releasing the rule, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services pointed to an analysis of the Congressional Budget Office that the No Surprises Act would lower health insurance premiums by about 1% and shave $17 billion off the federal deficit.
Rep. Larry Bucshon, R-Ind., who is a doctor and helped spearhead a letter of complaint this month, told us in a written statement.
Nearly half of the 152 lawmakers who signed that letter were Democrats, and many of the physicians serving in the House signed.
Some members of Congress who are also doctors held a conference call with the administration late last month to complain'
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/11/17/1056276890/surprise-medical-bills-doctors-congress
VegasJerry
2021-11-19 00:41:41 UTC
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IN FAVOR of surprise medical bills.
~ No, it does not. At issue is methods of arbitration rules.
Doctors want rules that give them the nut hand
~ Duh! But your: "Democrats take a stand in favor of surprise medical bills is not true."
'Nearly half of the 152 lawmakers who signed that letter were Democrats'
Did the letter say: "Democrats are in favor of Surprise Medical Bills?"
VegasJerry
2021-11-19 20:59:20 UTC
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IN FAVOR of surprise medical bills.
~ No, it does not. At issue is methods of arbitration rules.
Doctors want rules that give them the nut hand
~ Duh! But your: "Democrats take a stand in favor of surprise medical bills is not true."
'Nearly half of the 152 lawmakers who signed that letter were Democrats'
~ Did the letter say: "Democrats are in favor of Surprise Medical Bills?"
They used invisible ink written between the visible lines for that part.
Knew I was right..

risky biz
2021-11-18 20:14:04 UTC
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IN FAVOR of surprise medical bills.
~ No, it does not. At issue is methods of arbitration rules.
Doctors want rules that give them the nut hand.
Duh! But your: "Democrats take a stand in favor of surprise medical bills is not true."
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Post by VegasJerry
And all this could be absolved with a single payer healthcare system, or Medicare for all.
Something Republicans vote against...
Along with Barack Obama, James Clyburn, and Pete Buttigieg. The special interests that hire them as political gunslingers are unhappy that Biden is wavering and promulgating rules that give average Americans a leg to stand on.
If you wanted Medicare For All why did you vote for Biden?
~ To make him President. Sanders wouldn't have got it.

Sanders would have won by a wider margin. That's why all the special interest Democrats along with the news media circled the wagons and backed Biden who couldn't even pull off a respectable showing with Democrats previously.

So you wanted universal healthcare but you voted for someone who opposed universal healthcare and repeated the news media lies about it. That makes sense, somehow, I guess? You must have believed the news media lies that Sanders 'couldn't win'. Just as they blacked out coverage of Hillary's nomination opponents before she did her epic belly flop in the general.

Think for yourself in the future.
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'The detente that allowed Congress to pass a law to curb surprise medical bills has disintegrated. A bipartisan group of 152 lawmakers have been assailing the Biden administration's plan to regulate the law and medical providers, warning of grim consequences for underserved patients.
For years, patients have faced these massive, unexpected bills when they get treatment from hospitals or doctors outside their insurance company's network. It often happens when patients seek care at an in-network hospital, but a physician such as an emergency room doctor or anesthesiologist who treats the patient is not covered by the insurance plan. The insurer would pay only a small part of the bill, and the unsuspecting patient would be responsible for the balance.
Congress passed the No Surprises Act last December to shield patients from that experience after long, hard-fought negotiations with providers and insurers finally yielded an agreement that lawmakers from both parties thought was fair: a 30-day negotiation period between health providers and insurers when disputes over bills arise, followed by arbitration if agreements can't be reached.
The rule, which would take effect in January 2022, effectively leaves patients out of the fight. Providers and insurers have to work it out among themselves, following the new policy.
'In releasing the rule, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services pointed to an analysis of the Congressional Budget Office that the No Surprises Act would lower health insurance premiums by about 1% and shave $17 billion off the federal deficit.
Rep. Larry Bucshon, R-Ind., who is a doctor and helped spearhead a letter of complaint this month, told us in a written statement.
Nearly half of the 152 lawmakers who signed that letter were Democrats, and many of the physicians serving in the House signed.
Some members of Congress who are also doctors held a conference call with the administration late last month to complain'
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/11/17/1056276890/surprise-medical-bills-doctors-congress
BTSinAustin
2021-11-18 20:20:14 UTC
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Blah blah blah run and hide, knew you couldn't show
Think for yourself in the future.
Uh, that's going to be a problem. Jerry is the poster child for what happens when you consume fear porn 24/7
Tim Norfolk
2021-11-18 22:48:45 UTC
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Blah blah blah run and hide, knew you couldn't show
Think for yourself in the future.
Uh, that's going to be a problem. Jerry is the poster child for what happens when you consume fear porn 24/7
Well, two years ago, Mitch McConnell declared that the reason for the deficits was Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid, and they were 'going to fix that' after the election.
VegasJerry
2021-11-19 00:52:22 UTC
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Blah blah blah run and hide, knew you couldn't show
Think for yourself in the future.
Uh, that's going to be a problem. Jerry is the poster child for what happens when you consume fear porn 24/7
Yet thought right and voted for the whinner...

While YOU still can't "think" of a reason you vote Repubilcan...
Splashie
2021-11-19 18:35:54 UTC
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Blah blah blah run and hide, knew you couldn't show
Think for yourself in the future.
Uh, that's going to be a problem. Jerry is the poster child for what happens when you consume fear porn 24/7
Yet thought right and voted for the whinner...
While YOU still can't "think" of a reason you vote Repubilcan...
I do?
C'mon Brian, you know once you disagree with Jerry on any topic you're automatically a right-wing nutcase. I posted a link to 538 during the primaries last year and was accused of swallowing the Fox/Trump/GOP/Russia propaganda.

Michael
BTSinAustin
2021-11-19 18:40:50 UTC
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Blah blah blah run and hide, knew you couldn't show
Think for yourself in the future.
Uh, that's going to be a problem. Jerry is the poster child for what happens when you consume fear porn 24/7
Yet thought right and voted for the whinner...
While YOU still can't "think" of a reason you vote Repubilcan...
I do?
C'mon Brian, you know once you disagree with Jerry on any topic you're automatically a right-wing nutcase. I posted a link to 538 during the primaries last year and was accused of swallowing the Fox/Trump/GOP/Russia propaganda.
Michael
LOL, Splashie a Trumper.
VegasJerry
2021-11-19 20:57:32 UTC
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Blah blah blah run and hide, knew you couldn't show
Think for yourself in the future.
Uh, that's going to be a problem. Jerry is the poster child for what happens when you consume fear porn 24/7
Yet thought right and voted for the whinner...
While YOU still can't "think" of a reason you vote Repubilcan...
I do?
Apparently..
VegasJerry
2021-11-19 00:51:06 UTC
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IN FAVOR of surprise medical bills.
~ No, it does not. At issue is methods of arbitration rules.
Doctors want rules that give them the nut hand.
Duh! But your: "Democrats take a stand in favor of surprise medical bills is not true."
Post by risky biz
Post by VegasJerry
And all this could be absolved with a single payer healthcare system, or Medicare for all.
Something Republicans vote against...
Along with Barack Obama, James Clyburn, and Pete Buttigieg. The special interests that hire them as political gunslingers are unhappy that Biden is wavering and promulgating rules that give average Americans a leg to stand on.
If you wanted Medicare For All why did you vote for Biden?
~ To make him President. Sanders wouldn't have got it.
Sanders would have won by a wider margin.
Then you accept my above answer than I voted for Biden because I wanted Medicare For All?
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That's why all the special interest Democrats along with the news media circled the wagons
and backed Biden who couldn't even pull off a respectable showing with Democrats previously.
What "special interest Democrats and what was that 'special interest?'"
What "special interest news media and what was that 'special interest?'"
What 'Disrespectable showing with Democrats?"

Stop whining and answer the question.
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So you wanted universal healthcare but you voted for someone who opposed universal healthcare
and repeated the news media lies about it.
WHINING!!
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That makes sense, somehow, I guess?
Stop guessing and stop whining and answer the question.
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You must have believed the news media lies that Sanders 'couldn't win'.
Now you're making up phony positions for me.
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Just as they blacked out coverage of Hillary's nomination ...
WHINING! WHINING! Hello?
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opponents before she did her epic belly flop in the general.
Think for yourself in the future.
That's why I voted for the winner and you didn't...
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