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OT: New James Bond movie
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R***@aol.com
2008-11-21 06:49:01 UTC
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Saw it the other day. Nothing special. When it finished, I felt the
movie had no ending. 2 1/2 stars out of 5.
Tad Perry
2008-11-21 09:26:25 UTC
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Post by R***@aol.com
Saw it the other day. Nothing special. When it finished, I felt the
movie had no ending. 2 1/2 stars out of 5.
I would give Quantum of Solace at least 3 1/2 stars out of 4. (Sorry, I
don't do 5 stars.) In my star system, any movie that can be watched over and
over again like Die Hard, Star Wars, Aliens, and so on, get 4 stars. I've
only seen this one once, so I don't know if I'll ever promote it to 4 starts
even though I liked it, but time will tell.

I'm soft on Bond though. I'm a big Bond fan going way, way back. I remember
I was a little kid I had a Matchbox Astin Martin bond car with ejector
seat. I traded with a friend for it. I remember seeing You Only Live Twice
at the theater when I was about 4 or 5. Detectives, spies, and superheroes.
That was my childhood, and I know I wasn't alone.

So it's hard for me to not like any given Bond film, just on general
principle. They're cool. All Bond films except Never Say Never have been
produced by Albert Broccoli. Broccoli has always made sure that production
values are high. Sometimes a script or story can be on the weak side, but
the movie itself tends to look awesome and be impressive. Bond films are
always done on a grand scale. You can count on that, and Quantum of Solace
is no different in this regard.

Even so, I can't fault you for not giving it more stars, because it is
definitely a departure from the usual formula. There's no guarantee that
everyone will love it. Chase scenes are as over-the-top as they ever were,
but cute gadgets are rare. And Bond isn't as witty as he used to be. He's
smart, but he's not much with the one liners anymore. He goes first class,
but he's not such a snob about it. Now, it's just a matter of course. He'll
bed any lady that gets too close to him, but his attraction is pure animal
magnetism, not charm. There's much more menace than charm now. Meanwhile,
he's way tougher and way more physical. This guy can fight. And don't run,
because you can't get away. He's pure assassin. (I especially appreciate
this particular aspect of the new Bond.)

As for the musical score, I really liked it. People that have complained
about how the James Bond theme does not really appear until the credits show
an ignorance of Bond films in general, because there have been others that
did this. Take "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" from 1969. It has a a
really cool soundtrack in it's own right, but the signature theme is nowhere
to be found until the end, just as with Quantum of Solace.

We make a really odd movie-reviewing team, but what the hell.

tvp
R***@aol.com
2008-11-21 23:03:19 UTC
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I love Bond movies. Never a bad one as far as I'm concerned. The best
one in my opinion was the first one released, From Russia with Love.
Remember seeing the movie at the Lewis and Clark theater in the early
60's. It was released before Dr. No. FYI, The Lewis and Clark Theater
was the largest theater west of the Mississippi in it's day. Dr. No
was released afterwards (or no one watched the first movie). I read
all the Bond books and liked Casino Royale a lot, though the poker
hand was ridiculous. Quantum of Solace just seemed to lack an adequate
ending, like 2001.
Post by Tad Perry
Post by R***@aol.com
Saw it the other day. Nothing special. When it finished, I felt the
movie had no ending. 2 1/2 stars out of 5.
I would give Quantum of Solace at least 3 1/2 stars out of 4. (Sorry, I
don't do 5 stars.) In my star system, any movie that can be watched over and
over again like Die Hard, Star Wars, Aliens, and so on, get 4 stars. I've
only seen this one once, so I don't know if I'll ever promote it to 4 starts
even though I liked it, but time will tell.
I'm soft on Bond though. I'm a big Bond fan going way, way back. I remember
I was a little kid I �had a Matchbox Astin Martin bond car with ejector
seat. I traded with a friend for it. I remember seeing You Only Live Twice
at the theater when I was about 4 or 5. Detectives, spies, and superheroes.
That was my childhood, and I know I wasn't alone.
So it's hard for me to not like any given Bond film, just on general
principle. They're cool. All Bond films except Never Say Never have been
produced by Albert Broccoli. Broccoli has always made sure that production
values are high. Sometimes a script or story can be on the weak side, but
the movie itself tends to look awesome and be impressive. Bond films are
always done on a grand scale. You can count on that, and Quantum of Solace
is no different in this regard.
Even so, I can't fault you for not giving it more stars, because it is
definitely a departure from the usual formula. There's no guarantee that
everyone will love it. Chase scenes are as over-the-top as they ever were,
but cute gadgets are rare. And Bond isn't as witty as he used to be. He's
smart, but he's not much with the one liners anymore. He goes first class,
but he's not such a snob about it. Now, it's just a matter of course. He'll
bed any lady that gets too close to him, but his attraction is pure animal
magnetism, not charm. There's much more menace than charm now. Meanwhile,
he's way tougher and way more physical. This guy can fight. And don't run,
because you can't get away. He's pure assassin. (I especially appreciate
this particular aspect of the new Bond.)
As for the musical score, I really liked it. People that have complained
about how the James Bond theme does not really appear until the credits show
an ignorance of Bond films in general, because there have been others that
did this. Take "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" from 1969. It has a a
really cool soundtrack in it's own right, but the signature theme is nowhere
to be found until the end, just as with Quantum of Solace.
We make a really odd movie-reviewing team, but what the hell.
tvp
Tad Perry
2008-11-22 04:37:14 UTC
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I remember the Lewis and Clark. It really was a big, broad theater. There
were a lot of circa 1950's theaters built in Seattle that have long
disappeared.
One of my favorites was the Coliseum downtown. Now it's a Gap I think.
The Egyptian and the Neptune are still left, though. I relish any chance to
go
to either theater.

Back to Bond, you're right that it doesn't really have much of an ending,
but
I guess I wasn't looking for one. My favorite Bond movie has changed around
over time. For a while I liked Live and Let Die more for the McCartney title
track
than the movie. Lately, I have a fondness for On Her Majesty's Secret
Service.
Few people pick the Lazenby movie, but it's actually very good. Diana Rigg
and Telly Savalas make it special. I remember that there was a James Bond
lunch box out in 1969-70 that was covered with images from that movie. Mine
was Daktari, which was cool enough, but hardly anyone remembers that show
now.

tvp

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I love Bond movies. Never a bad one as far as I'm concerned. The best
one in my opinion was the first one released, From Russia with Love.
Remember seeing the movie at the Lewis and Clark theater in the early
60's. It was released before Dr. No. FYI, The Lewis and Clark Theater
was the largest theater west of the Mississippi in it's day. Dr. No
was released afterwards (or no one watched the first movie). I read
all the Bond books and liked Casino Royale a lot, though the poker
hand was ridiculous. Quantum of Solace just seemed to lack an adequate
ending, like 2001.
Post by Tad Perry
Post by R***@aol.com
Saw it the other day. Nothing special. When it finished, I felt the
movie had no ending. 2 1/2 stars out of 5.
I would give Quantum of Solace at least 3 1/2 stars out of 4. (Sorry, I
don't do 5 stars.) In my star system, any movie that can be watched over and
over again like Die Hard, Star Wars, Aliens, and so on, get 4 stars. I've
only seen this one once, so I don't know if I'll ever promote it to 4 starts
even though I liked it, but time will tell.
I'm soft on Bond though. I'm a big Bond fan going way, way back. I remember
I was a little kid I ?had a Matchbox Astin Martin bond car with ejector
seat. I traded with a friend for it. I remember seeing You Only Live Twice
at the theater when I was about 4 or 5. Detectives, spies, and
superheroes.
Post by Tad Perry
That was my childhood, and I know I wasn't alone.
So it's hard for me to not like any given Bond film, just on general
principle. They're cool. All Bond films except Never Say Never have been
produced by Albert Broccoli. Broccoli has always made sure that production
values are high. Sometimes a script or story can be on the weak side, but
the movie itself tends to look awesome and be impressive. Bond films are
always done on a grand scale. You can count on that, and Quantum of Solace
is no different in this regard.
Even so, I can't fault you for not giving it more stars, because it is
definitely a departure from the usual formula. There's no guarantee that
everyone will love it. Chase scenes are as over-the-top as they ever were,
but cute gadgets are rare. And Bond isn't as witty as he used to be. He's
smart, but he's not much with the one liners anymore. He goes first class,
but he's not such a snob about it. Now, it's just a matter of course. He'll
bed any lady that gets too close to him, but his attraction is pure animal
magnetism, not charm. There's much more menace than charm now. Meanwhile,
he's way tougher and way more physical. This guy can fight. And don't run,
because you can't get away. He's pure assassin. (I especially appreciate
this particular aspect of the new Bond.)
As for the musical score, I really liked it. People that have complained
about how the James Bond theme does not really appear until the credits show
an ignorance of Bond films in general, because there have been others that
did this. Take "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" from 1969. It has a a
really cool soundtrack in it's own right, but the signature theme is nowhere
to be found until the end, just as with Quantum of Solace.
We make a really odd movie-reviewing team, but what the hell.
tvp
R***@aol.com
2008-11-22 07:42:50 UTC
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I thought George Lazenby made a real good James Bond. And 'On Her
Majesty's Secret Service' would be my second choice. Lazenby had the
job for JB if he had wanted it, but he passed on the next as he didn't
want to be typecast.
Post by Tad Perry
I remember the Lewis and Clark. It really was a big, broad theater. There
were a lot of circa 1950's theaters built in Seattle that have long
disappeared.
One of my favorites was the Coliseum downtown. Now it's a Gap I think.
The Egyptian and the Neptune are still left, though. I relish any chance to
go
to either theater.
Back to Bond, you're right that it doesn't really have much of an ending,
but
I guess I wasn't looking for one. My favorite Bond movie has changed around
over time. For a while I liked Live and Let Die more for the McCartney title
track
than the movie. Lately, I have a fondness for On Her Majesty's Secret
Service.
Few people pick the Lazenby movie, but it's actually very good. Diana Rigg
and Telly Savalas make it special. I remember that there was a James Bond
lunch box out in 1969-70 that was covered with images from that movie. Mine
was Daktari, which was cool enough, but hardly anyone remembers that show
now.
tvp
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I love Bond movies. Never a bad one as far as I'm concerned. The best
one in my opinion was the first one released, From Russia with Love.
Remember seeing the movie at the Lewis and Clark theater in the early
60's. It was released before Dr. No. FYI, The Lewis and Clark Theater
was the largest theater west of the Mississippi in it's day. Dr. No
was released afterwards (or no one watched the first movie). I read
all the Bond books and liked Casino Royale a lot, though the poker
hand was ridiculous. Quantum of Solace just seemed to lack an adequate
ending, like 2001.
Post by Tad Perry
Post by R***@aol.com
Saw it the other day. Nothing special. When it finished, I felt the
movie had no ending. 2 1/2 stars out of 5.
I would give Quantum of Solace at least 3 1/2 stars out of 4. (Sorry, I
don't do 5 stars.) In my star system, any movie that can be watched over
and
Post by Tad Perry
over again like Die Hard, Star Wars, Aliens, and so on, get 4 stars. I've
only seen this one once, so I don't know if I'll ever promote it to 4
starts
Post by Tad Perry
even though I liked it, but time will tell.
I'm soft on Bond though. I'm a big Bond fan going way, way back. I
remember
Post by Tad Perry
I was a little kid I ?had a Matchbox Astin Martin bond car with ejector
seat. I traded with a friend for it. I remember seeing You Only Live Twice
at the theater when I was about 4 or 5. Detectives, spies, and
superheroes.
Post by Tad Perry
That was my childhood, and I know I wasn't alone.
So it's hard for me to not like any given Bond film, just on general
principle. They're cool. All Bond films except Never Say Never have been
produced by Albert Broccoli. Broccoli has always made sure that production
values are high. Sometimes a script or story can be on the weak side, but
the movie itself tends to look awesome and be impressive. Bond films are
always done on a grand scale. You can count on that, and Quantum of Solace
is no different in this regard.
Even so, I can't fault you for not giving it more stars, because it is
definitely a departure from the usual formula. There's no guarantee that
everyone will love it. Chase scenes are as over-the-top as they ever were,
but cute gadgets are rare. And Bond isn't as witty as he used to be. He's
smart, but he's not much with the one liners anymore. He goes first class,
but he's not such a snob about it. Now, it's just a matter of course.
He'll
Post by Tad Perry
bed any lady that gets too close to him, but his attraction is pure animal
magnetism, not charm. There's much more menace than charm now. Meanwhile,
he's way tougher and way more physical. This guy can fight. And don't run,
because you can't get away. He's pure assassin. (I especially appreciate
this particular aspect of the new Bond.)
As for the musical score, I really liked it. People that have complained
about how the James Bond theme does not really appear until the credits
show
Post by Tad Perry
an ignorance of Bond films in general, because there have been others that
did this. Take "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" from 1969. It has a a
really cool soundtrack in it's own right, but the signature theme is
nowhere
Post by Tad Perry
to be found until the end, just as with Quantum of Solace.
We make a really odd movie-reviewing team, but what the hell.
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jb
2008-11-22 08:07:07 UTC
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By no means was From Russia With Love(1963), released before Dr. No(1962).
Where you got that hairbrained idea I can't imagine. The only thing you are
right about is that FRWL is probably the best of all the Bond films.
Diamonds Are Forever is not too bad either. It has some great shots of
Vegas circa 1971.
Post by Tad Perry
I remember the Lewis and Clark. It really was a big, broad theater. There
were a lot of circa 1950's theaters built in Seattle that have long
disappeared.
One of my favorites was the Coliseum downtown. Now it's a Gap I think.
The Egyptian and the Neptune are still left, though. I relish any chance to
go
to either theater.
Back to Bond, you're right that it doesn't really have much of an ending,
but
I guess I wasn't looking for one. My favorite Bond movie has changed around
over time. For a while I liked Live and Let Die more for the McCartney title
track
than the movie. Lately, I have a fondness for On Her Majesty's Secret
Service.
Few people pick the Lazenby movie, but it's actually very good. Diana Rigg
and Telly Savalas make it special. I remember that there was a James Bond
lunch box out in 1969-70 that was covered with images from that movie. Mine
was Daktari, which was cool enough, but hardly anyone remembers that show
now.
tvp
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I love Bond movies. Never a bad one as far as I'm concerned. The best
one in my opinion was the first one released, From Russia with Love.
Remember seeing the movie at the Lewis and Clark theater in the early
60's. It was released before Dr. No. FYI, The Lewis and Clark Theater
was the largest theater west of the Mississippi in it's day. Dr. No
was released afterwards (or no one watched the first movie). I read
all the Bond books and liked Casino Royale a lot, though the poker
hand was ridiculous. Quantum of Solace just seemed to lack an adequate
ending, like 2001.
Post by Tad Perry
Post by R***@aol.com
Saw it the other day. Nothing special. When it finished, I felt the
movie had no ending. 2 1/2 stars out of 5.
I would give Quantum of Solace at least 3 1/2 stars out of 4. (Sorry, I
don't do 5 stars.) In my star system, any movie that can be watched over
and
Post by Tad Perry
over again like Die Hard, Star Wars, Aliens, and so on, get 4 stars. I've
only seen this one once, so I don't know if I'll ever promote it to 4
starts
Post by Tad Perry
even though I liked it, but time will tell.
I'm soft on Bond though. I'm a big Bond fan going way, way back. I
remember
Post by Tad Perry
I was a little kid I ?had a Matchbox Astin Martin bond car with ejector
seat. I traded with a friend for it. I remember seeing You Only Live Twice
at the theater when I was about 4 or 5. Detectives, spies, and
superheroes.
Post by Tad Perry
That was my childhood, and I know I wasn't alone.
So it's hard for me to not like any given Bond film, just on general
principle. They're cool. All Bond films except Never Say Never have been
produced by Albert Broccoli. Broccoli has always made sure that production
values are high. Sometimes a script or story can be on the weak side, but
the movie itself tends to look awesome and be impressive. Bond films are
always done on a grand scale. You can count on that, and Quantum of Solace
is no different in this regard.
Even so, I can't fault you for not giving it more stars, because it is
definitely a departure from the usual formula. There's no guarantee that
everyone will love it. Chase scenes are as over-the-top as they ever were,
but cute gadgets are rare. And Bond isn't as witty as he used to be. He's
smart, but he's not much with the one liners anymore. He goes first class,
but he's not such a snob about it. Now, it's just a matter of course.
He'll
Post by Tad Perry
bed any lady that gets too close to him, but his attraction is pure animal
magnetism, not charm. There's much more menace than charm now. Meanwhile,
he's way tougher and way more physical. This guy can fight. And don't run,
because you can't get away. He's pure assassin. (I especially appreciate
this particular aspect of the new Bond.)
As for the musical score, I really liked it. People that have complained
about how the James Bond theme does not really appear until the credits
show
Post by Tad Perry
an ignorance of Bond films in general, because there have been others that
did this. Take "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" from 1969. It has a a
really cool soundtrack in it's own right, but the signature theme is
nowhere
Post by Tad Perry
to be found until the end, just as with Quantum of Solace.
We make a really odd movie-reviewing team, but what the hell.
tvp
Steam
2008-11-22 09:18:18 UTC
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Post by Tad Perry
Back to Bond, you're right that it doesn't really have much of an ending,
but
I guess I wasn't looking for one. My favorite Bond movie has changed around
over time. For a while I liked Live and Let Die more for the McCartney title
track
than the movie. Lately, I have a fondness for On Her Majesty's Secret
Service.
Few people pick the Lazenby movie, but it's actually very good. Diana Rigg
and Telly Savalas make it special. I remember that there was a James Bond
lunch box out in 1969-70 that was covered with images from that movie. Mine
was Daktari, which was cool enough, but hardly anyone remembers that show
now.
On Her Majesty's Secret Service was the first Bond I ever saw, as a double
feature with Diamonds are forever. Was Telly Savalas in that? I haven't
seen that in decades. I did enjoy it, I don't remember much though,
except a lot of skiing and the bad guys hideout on the top of a hill.

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charrison100
2008-11-21 13:47:05 UTC
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Post by R***@aol.com
Saw it the other day. Nothing special. When it finished, I felt the
movie had no ending. 2 1/2 stars out of 5.
I liked it. Not my favorite Bond film but not the worst. I say it's worth
the $12 to see it on the big screen.

Don't go to that 7:30 Friday night show if you hate teenagers. I took it
in on a Sunday noon show with the old foogies, they are much quieter.

Chris

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